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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 11:12:36 GMT -6
Post by BrownDynomite on Oct 16, 2014 11:12:36 GMT -6
If this thing spreads, I'm canceling my gym membership. lol. I bring a towel w/me to wipe down sweaty a$$ area's, but I might have to switch to lysol wipes. This thing has a lot of us thinking twice now.
I didn't read this anywhere, and sorry if someone linked an article to this subject, but I heard that they didn't use the same procedures when dealing with Ducan. And that's why he's dead. Something about using the blood of an African boy who somehow beat the virus/disease without any aid on the 2 doctors from the states, but the same was not done for Ducan. And that's why he's dead. And now, they're using the blood of the 2 doctors(or something like that) on the 2 new patients w/ebola.
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Post by Sailor Namek on Oct 16, 2014 11:44:16 GMT -6
pffft at this rate y'all should stop ordering from ebay mail order ebola low key unsettled by some of these comments lmao it's selfish to endanger others to life threatening virus yes. but allow me to say that it's super easy to sit here, in good health, judging people. to act as if you'd easily be able to put your entire life on hold for who knows how long. to leave behind your friends & family, your job, for a disease you may not even have i'm not saying what she did was smart or right, but it's actually a little understandable. have a little compassion.. instead of immediately jumping to "omg chain reaction i'll get it now fk her omg" i'm certain that no one here is going to be disrupted by this virus i sincerely hope i won't have to eat my words later but i don't think i'll have to so ya
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 11:55:59 GMT -6
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Post by serenitydarko on Oct 16, 2014 11:55:59 GMT -6
I second that ^^
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 12:51:58 GMT -6
Post by Killian on Oct 16, 2014 12:51:58 GMT -6
I haven't read these comments, so lol, but I'm going to Dallas for 5 days next week and have no concerns of getting ebola. But when I get back and go to school I will obviously make ebola jokes as my 16 year old mind wants to
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Post by wartomato on Oct 16, 2014 13:05:07 GMT -6
I completely agree with Android 18's post. While I don't condone their response to possibly having Ebola, I do understand it.
You may think you'll act a certain way under certain circumstances(Most of us probably believe we'd be heroes in times of crisis) but you'll never know until you're in a life-threatening situation.
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 13:19:35 GMT -6
Post by Adrenaline on Oct 16, 2014 13:19:35 GMT -6
low key unsettled by some of these comments lmao it's selfish to endanger others to life threatening virus yes. but allow me to say that it's super easy to sit here, in good health, judging people. to act as if you'd easily be able to put your entire life on hold for who knows how long. to leave behind your friends & family, your job, for a disease you may not even have i'm not saying what she did was smart or right, but it's actually a little understandable. have a little compassion.. instead of immediately jumping to "omg chain reaction i'll get it now fk her omg" i'm certain that no one here is going to be disrupted by this virus i sincerely hope i won't have to eat my words later but i don't think i'll have to so ya I don't believe you. Seriously. I highly doubt that if you were one of a few nurses in the USA working with the only ebola-infected patient in the country, forced to wear hazmat spacesuits, cleaning up vomit, and constantly within feet of that person, put on a strict schedule of probably long working days and lonely ones (considering you have to limit your contact with others) and constantly being tested while you're working with that patient, and then suddenly you pick up a 99.5 fever and decide "I'm going to fly and see my family in Ohio and put my loved ones in danger"....you really understand that? I doubt you do. In fact, you don't. You wouldn't do that...unless you were stupid. And you're not, right? What she did was stupid. I DO have compassion for her that she is ill, but we're talking about a different aspect here (the fact she knowingly endangered others) and I don't have compassion for people that do that, especially to their family and innocent people on the plane flight there. And yes, she knew something was wrong. Was it on purpose? NO, she's not evil...but it was STUPID because she knew she might have had the disease. I mean, she was just working with patient zero, in a situation that is global news, was tested every day during the process, then got symptoms, called CDC to see if it was okay to go because she KNEW she had a fever, and even with their consent, went anyway. Ignorance? Carelessness? Irresponsibility? You name it. Any human being with common sense wouldn't have even called them. They'd have stayed home or had gone straight to the ER for testing. Please, understand it? No. I only understand that she made a HUGE mistake. If you want to talk about compassion, imagine you were the person who sat next to her on the plane and then got ebola yourself and then you might unknowingly pass it on to your significant other and kids, to the point where they could die. Imagine that. Would you have understood her decision to go then? Don't think so. Now, I understand you're a happy individual, free spirited and what-not, so the whole idea seems like a big farce, but this is not a joke (though we might crack some here and there), it's real.
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 13:28:53 GMT -6
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Post by serenitydarko on Oct 16, 2014 13:28:53 GMT -6
She asked you to understand, not agree and approve of the woman's actions.
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Post by timone317 on Oct 16, 2014 13:31:22 GMT -6
I completely agree with Android 18's post. While I don't condone their response to possibly having Ebola, I do understand it. You may think you'll act a certain way under certain circumstances(Most of us probably believe we'd be heroes in times of crisis) but you'll never know until you're in a life-threatening situation. speaking for myself...if I happened to be a nurse that treated Duncan, a man diagnosed with ebola who eventually died, and I'm well aware of what might happen and I'm running a fever and have enough concern to contact the CDC about my condition, then I'm certainly not going to think about going anywhere at anytime. People can afford to be in isolation for a while. I'll say again...human error will likely be the cause of a massive outbreak and sadly I'm seeing quite a bit of human error these days.
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 14:14:53 GMT -6
Post by Adrenaline on Oct 16, 2014 14:14:53 GMT -6
She asked you to understand, not agree and approve of the woman's actions. I know and I don't understand why she decided to fly to another state, with 150 people, knowingly sick with a possible disease that is deadly, to go see her family. I don't understand it because it was wrong. Plain and simple. lol timone317 just nailed it. @android 18 I'm not trying to be a jerk, but it's like this. Would you go home to cappy if you were just with an ebola-infected person and had a 99.5 fever that was rising? No, you would not. This nurse basically did that.
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 14:38:49 GMT -6
Post by SupremeKai on Oct 16, 2014 14:38:49 GMT -6
Don't be so judgemental! If you were travelling abroad in west Africa and contracted ebola, the very first thing you'd do is catch a plane back to USA, or your respective homeland. Why, because you can rest assured, knowing that you will receive the necessary medical treatment to give you the best chance at survival. You know you would!
I still can't believe anyone would voluntarily travel to Africa to offer medical aid to the infected, knowingly exposing yourself to a highly contagious and potentially lethal virus and stupidly endangering you own life. Some might call this selflessness. However, I personally would consider it tantamount to suicide.
Let's just agree it's a sad, but necessary, fact of life... natural selection.
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Post by Branjita on Oct 16, 2014 16:01:11 GMT -6
Adrenaline-- the thing about moving her to Atlanta is because the hospital in Dallas only has 1 isolation room, not two, so they can't handle 2 patients. In fact, they are moving the first nurse from Dallas to I think Maryland today. I haven't had time to read why. Brown-- The 1 guy in the US who is a doctor who survived Ebola wasn't able to donate blood to Duncan because he wasn't a match for his blood type. In Africa, they don't do blood typing, and so they will transfer any survivor's blood to someone with it, and that can help, but donating blood to an incompatible blood type causes other problems (that you'd have to google, because I'm not educated on them). Wave-- To me, it isn't even being a hero. Staying home instead of getting on a plane to go plan your wedding isn't that big of a deal to miss out on. That would be called "being responsible". If I potentially had ebola, I'd put my life on hold until I was sure I was safe. I would put my wedding on hold, that's for darn sure. Adrenaline again-- I agree with most of what you said, what the 29 year old woman did was selfish and stupid. Anybody who purposely puts others at risk for a deadly disease is a total idiot no matter what their job or anything else is. It's exactly as bad as a person knowing they have HIV and purposefully having sex without a condom. It's irresponsible, and is basically using yourself as a biological weapon. The CDC having some idiot tell her she could go was just as bad. If that were my job, I'd be like "Hell no! Call 911 and get out of a public place!" or whatever the proper protocol would be. The "Oh, well she wasn't to 100.4 degrees" is lunacy. I think the problem with many of the replies (and readers who aren't replying) who may be disagreeing, is that you are not all following the coverage of this news daily, or are not even in the US. Perhaps you're even believing incorrect information spread by government officials, who are still trying to prevent economic problems and panic (though there isn't much reason to panic at the moment, particularly if you aren't in Dallas near where all this stuff is going down). If you were following the news daily, you'd be a lot more concerned. The US is not prepared for this disease, the likelihood of dying from it if you get it is higher than your chances of living (and if you live, you're likely to have health problems the rest of your life from the Ebola trying to turn all of your organs into a slushie), and preventing getting if exposed is incredibly difficult. Even N95 (typical hospital) face masks can't block the virus, because it's so small that it will slip right through. By not realizing these things, you're arguing that 2 + 2 = 5. M5, with his medical occupation, has a good point of view, but he doesn't know the US, because he's in Israel, where they do encounter diseases similarly threatening as Ebola. In the US, the worst we typically get is the flu, and as you all know, chicken noodle soup and some rest will eventually get you over the flu. The flu is comparable to getting flicked in the ear, while Ebola is like getting kicked in the balls and then having them cut off. That's how much different the "scary" flu is from ebola. You could sleep all you wanted, and take as much Azithromyacin or Tamiflu as you want with ebola, and it's not going to care. Flu = Raditz. Ebola = LSS Broly. But the question is... what can you do? Honestly, there really isn't that much a person can do, without going through great expense and being overprotected 99% of the time. Being aware, informed, and conscientious of your actions would be a good start. Being mindful in public bathrooms that pretty much any liquid you see (or don't see) could potentially be from a sick person, and start opening the door with a paper towel! Personally, I've given up on shaking hands, but have not yet regressed to flipping people off who reach for my hand and saying "What are you trying to do?!"
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Ebola
Oct 16, 2014 18:12:40 GMT -6
Post by Bender on Oct 16, 2014 18:12:40 GMT -6
Over here in Amarillo we have a patient with Ebola in one of our hospitals. The entire hospital was shut down and quarenteened yesterday for a while, then opened back up. crap's getting serious.
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Post by carnage6 on Oct 16, 2014 20:12:54 GMT -6
I work in a hospital and in the medical field and dealt with the Swine Flu here. Of course that wasn't as big a deal as people originally believed it to be but I do have to say that if we are to stop outbreaks like this a strict solution is best. Not to quote a fictional character but Spock did say once, “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”. Yes it's true. We can't be light about potential life threatening diseases that could wipe out a mass amount of people. I do support strict isolation and containment and working in this industry you have no idea how scary it is to deal with patients in isolation and the nurses don't tell you what they have. You have no idea what you could get or bring home to your loved ones. On the other hand, I do see how awful it would be to be that patient who has one of these diseases not being able to touch or hold your loved ones and being so alone. That right there would be enough for some people to want to kill themselves. Both options suck but with society being squished into large cities were you can't avoid people if you tried, this just facilitates the spread of these types of diseases at a faster and faster rate.
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Ebola
Oct 17, 2014 8:02:34 GMT -6
Post by Adrenaline on Oct 17, 2014 8:02:34 GMT -6
Adrenaline-- the thing about moving her to Atlanta is because the hospital in Dallas only has 1 isolation room, not two, so they can't handle 2 patients. In fact, they are moving the first nurse from Dallas to I think Maryland today. I haven't had time to read why. Flu = Raditz. Ebola = LSS Broly. So they have one isolation room and are not going to use it, but instead, send both patients to two different states. Who makes these genius decisions? lol Flu vs Ebola, Raditz vs Broly. Case closed.
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Ebola
Oct 17, 2014 10:24:52 GMT -6
Post by Branjita on Oct 17, 2014 10:24:52 GMT -6
Nina, the first nurse was already in the isolation room. And it isn't an isolation room if there are two people in it.
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