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Post by saiyen on Oct 8, 2014 20:22:14 GMT -6
Ok, so it's my last post here...
I analyze and I think what I want. The African people suffer with our countries, but I see you don't understand.
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Post by BrownDynomite on Oct 8, 2014 20:39:39 GMT -6
If you think the gov is on your side... You need to wake up. Lol
I also believe all this crap is made in some lab by some evil a$$ minds. Maybe it isn't true.. But I'm entitled to believe what I want to believe.
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Ebola
Oct 8, 2014 20:49:33 GMT -6
Post by MajinRob on Oct 8, 2014 20:49:33 GMT -6
Keep believing what you want to believe. Ebola virus is a genera of filoviridae or filovirus, which has been in existence for millions of years.
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Post by Branjita on Oct 8, 2014 21:06:47 GMT -6
The conspiracy nut talk in this thread is a little ridiculous. The government doesn't want to kill you. Take your tin foil hats off. There's no conspiracy talk in here, not sure where you're getting that. Unless you're referring to my true claim, that the CDC and Texas government officials are legitimately downplaying (or rather, they were last week, today's CDC interview guy this afternoon was much more honest) just how contagious this virus is. The local government officials are/were because they don't want it to affect people's spending habits. They want people to go to the state fair, go to sport games, etc. because if people don't do these things the economy will suffer. There is no "you have a healthy immune system, you'll be ok" bs when it comes to Ebola, that's a misconceived notion that a friend of mine (a teacher... of all people...) said last week. Ebola isn't the flu. Left alone without hospitalization, the death rate is about 90%; with hospitalization, if caught early, 50 to 60%. If you come into contact with infected material (an infected person's bodily fluids or anything they've touched with their bodily fluids on them), you get the disease, that's pretty much how Ebola works. It transfers through sweat, saliva, urine, blood, semen, and probably feces. The kidneys eventually stop working, you have a fever so you're sweating, and you bleed from the inside out until you go into shock from blood loss (blood vessels leaking internally usually, but sometimes externally out your eyes, ears, nose, mouth, etc) and die. Most people die before blood starts leaking from their eyes, ears, etc. The biggest problem, in my opinion, in the US is that people will try to live their lives normally and try to treat themselves. This is bad concerning this disease, because then you infect your entire home, car, everything else you come in contact with, and everybody you meet, just like patient zero (named Duncan) did. In an environment where you're taken care of by people who constantly keep your sterilized and quarantined, you are not as much of a threat. Living in your own filth at home makes you a major problem. Going to work makes you a major problem. Just imagine if your mailman had Ebola, how many people would he infect with his sweat on the mail or a little vomit on his hand from having to pull over and throw up? The virus can survive for days without a host because it isn't bacteria, so not touching your mail for days at a time would not help. Those of you who live in the US or Spain should educate yourselves on Ebola. Timone lives close enough to Texas that he's pretty well informed I think. Give this a read so you'll be educated and not ignorant like so many people are. m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5639456
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Post by MajinRob on Oct 8, 2014 21:09:32 GMT -6
The conspiracy nut talk in this thread is a little ridiculous. The government doesn't want to kill you. Take your tin foil hats off. There's no conspiracy talk in here, not sure where you're getting that. Unless you're referring to my true claim, that the CDC and Texas government officials are legitimately downplaying (or rather, they were last week, today's CDC interview guy this afternoon was much more honest) just how contagious this virus is. The local government officials are/were because they don't want it to affect people's spending habits. They want people to go to the state fair, go to sport games, etc. because if people don't do these things the economy will suffer. There is no "you have a healthy immune system, you'll be ok" bs when it comes to Ebola, that's a misconceived notion that a friend of mine (a teacher... of all people...) said last week. Ebola isn't the flu. Left alone without hospitalization, the death rate is about 90%; with hospitalization, if caught early, 50 to 60%. If you come into contact with infected material (an infected person's bodily fluids or anything they've touched with their bodily fluids on them), you get the disease, that's pretty much how Ebola works. It transfers through sweat, saliva, urine, blood, semen, and probably feces. The kidneys eventually stop working, you have a fever so you're sweating, and you bleed from the inside out until you go into shock from blood loss (blood vessels leaking internally usually, but sometimes externally out your eyes, ears, nose, mouth, etc) and die. Most people die before blood starts leaking from their eyes, ears, etc. The biggest problem, in my opinion, in the US is that people will try to live their lives normally and try to treat themselves. This is bad concerning this disease, because then you infect your entire home, car, everything else you come in contact with, and everybody you meet, just like patient zero (named Duncan) did. In an environment where you're taken care of by people who constantly keep your sterilized and quarantined, you are not as much of a threat. Living in your own filth at home makes you a major problem. Going to work makes you a major problem. Just imagine if your mailman had Ebola, how many people would he infect with his sweat on the mail or a little vomit on his hand from having to pull over and throw up? The virus can survive for days without a host because it isn't bacteria, so not touching your mail for days at a time would not help. Those of you who live in the US or Spain should educate yourselves on Ebola. Timone lives close enough to Texas that he's pretty well informed I think. Give this a read so you'll be educated and not ignorant like so many people are. m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5639456I have no issue with what you've said. You're correct and there needs to be education, preparation and more done regarding ebola virus. My issues are with users who believe ebola and other viruses were created in labs and exposed to nations in Africa on purpose by nefarious sources.
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Post by Branjita on Oct 8, 2014 21:13:10 GMT -6
Oh, ok, sorry I thought you were referring to what I said and some of the earlier posts, which were mostly realistic.
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Post by sparkyss4 on Oct 8, 2014 21:18:51 GMT -6
Well time to start making a underground safe house dbz first then food/water lol
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Ebola
Oct 8, 2014 21:25:17 GMT -6
Post by TheCollector on Oct 8, 2014 21:25:17 GMT -6
Go to Louisville. Does anyone even realize they have one of the largest, if not largest underground man made limestone caves? Where do you think Wal-Mart stores all that food before it goes to stores? Plenty to eat there. Or just go there for the zip lines.
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 8, 2014 23:24:50 GMT -6
OMG! The stupidity level of this thread is totally off the charts. No-one is going to contract ebola. If you think your Government will still be able to collect tax from a deceased population, then you're wrong. They, "the Government", will not let an ebola epidemic such as we see now in Africa happen in developed nations.
Sure, ebola is a potentially deadly virus, if contracted. Will you ever come into contact with this disease - most probably not. Don't be stupid...
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Ebola
Oct 8, 2014 23:30:20 GMT -6
Post by The Great Saiyaman on Oct 8, 2014 23:30:20 GMT -6
I didn't read anything in this thread but the title. The only care I have for the Ebola virus is pity for those affected.
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Post by Gonstead on Oct 8, 2014 23:38:46 GMT -6
I don't see this thread ending well if we're bringing politics into this discussion.
Talk Ebola, not Politics.
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Post by Adrenaline on Oct 9, 2014 7:24:25 GMT -6
Go to Louisville. Does anyone even realize they have one of the largest, if not largest underground man made limestone caves? Where do you think Wal-Mart stores all that food before it goes to stores? Plenty to eat there. Or just go there for the zip lines. Anything wal-mart related is probably contaminated too lol All filled with preservatives and artificial colors. They have very little product that's all natural or organic. As for Ebola, well, lets just hope that guy in Dallas didn't pass it on to anyone before he died. Unfortunately these diseases exist, but we need to do what we need to do to keep it out of our country, period. No more bringing those infected into our borders for treatment.
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Post by ToadKart on Oct 9, 2014 14:17:19 GMT -6
I'm not really worried. Not much point. If "they" want it to become a pandemic in the US, it will. If not, it won't. It could just end up like the H1N1 outbreak in 2009, where everyone was afraid but nothing much came of it.
There's the old saying, "Never let a good crisis go to waste". If they can use the fear(whether it be from ebola or Isis) to further advance their goals, they will. People would be all too willing to give up their freedoms if it meant safety.
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Post by Ketchup on Oct 9, 2014 15:52:11 GMT -6
Some people seem immune entirely.
The US patient who just died (He's originally from Liberia) obviously didn't have a good go with it, but everyone that he had contact with have had no symptoms of the disease at all. Al Sharpton is flaming the "race issue" fire again with this situation, but he's not accounting for the fact that the guy lied about where he was going when he left and where he'd been when he re-entered the country.
To be entirely honest, the reason why there was a massive outbreak in West Africa is because they're a largely third world area. Personal hygiene there is virtually non-existent, and people defecate in the streets and not many people bathe.
It's basically what happened with the Black Plague in Europe during the 1400s. If people had known that bathing and hygiene could keep them from getting ill, a lot less people would've died. Even though the Black Plague gets all the credit, the worst epidemic in history was the Spanish Flu. More people died of the Spanish Flu than any other disease in history, but the Black Plague is considered worse because such a high percentage of the European population died.
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Ebola
Oct 9, 2014 20:52:16 GMT -6
Post by Branjita on Oct 9, 2014 20:52:16 GMT -6
Well the virus takes up to 21 days to manifest symptoms supposedly, and it's only been about 10 days (maybe a little more since he returned, but maybe 9 days since he went to the hospital?). I figure the kids living with him surely have to have it eventually, but they are quarantined with his girlfriend.
The police officer in Frisco tested negative for it thankfully. If he had it... my gosh... that would be terrible, because he's been in contact with lots of people.
The biggest difference between this and H1N1 and SARS is that even if you live through Ebola, it isn't like you just spring back to your normal life like you do with the flu. The virus basically ruins your blood vessels, you bleed internally, your kidneys get messed up, your liver gets messed up, etc. And as far as I know the 50 to 90% death rate is irregardless of age. I'm sure a good portion of us on here might live through it if we got it since we are in our 20s and 30s mostly, but our parents most likely would not.
I mean, I was trying on clothes at a store today, and got to thinking after slipping 4 shirts on and off... "what if the guy who died the other day had come to this store 2 weeks ago, tried on this shirt before me, and I now have had contact with his sweat, and possibly even his mucus as he removed the t-shirt from his head" something to kind of weirdly think about.
I remember from taking biology in college that while bacteria cannot usually live long without a host, many viruses can go dormant for weeks, months, even years without a host, and then wake up when they find one. I just did about 30 seconds worth of research on google, and Ebola can last from just a few minutes outside a host to more commonly several days, and even 50+ days outside a host.
My mom watches the news a lot since she's retired, and she was telling me that Duncan's body still hasn't been cremated because they are concerned and trying to figure out a way to do it that won't spread the virus to their cremation equipment. They also have something like 180 barrels of possessions of his removed from his apartment that they still haven't figured out how to dispose of safely.
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