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Post by btown on Apr 2, 2016 14:35:27 GMT -6
a premium color cell would be.....perfect
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Post by silvershadow206 on Apr 2, 2016 14:38:08 GMT -6
Latest Jump Calendar is up! dragonballfigures.com/thread/464/figuarts-zero?page=20September shipping schedule Figure Figuarts ZERO Buu (pure) 3800 yen + tax Bandai Looks like we're getting a ZERO Kid Buu...........sad news is that along with Gotenks, it pretty much confirms we won't be seeing a SH Figuarts Version....at least for some time! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! We NEED a Figuarts Buu & Gotenks... Would prefer Goten/SSJ and Kid Trunks/SSJ before Gotenks of course lol. But we REALLY need a version of Buu... I bet they STILL ignore him at this years event and move on the guys like Frost, Hit etc |
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Post by tsarquise on Apr 2, 2016 14:45:57 GMT -6
I'm all for a premium Color version of every character... Better yet, rerelease them all with updated articulation!
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Post by ssjtrunks on Apr 2, 2016 16:39:42 GMT -6
Screw the aftermarket and scalpers we want premium color Perfect Cell. |
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Post by ssjtrunks on Apr 2, 2016 16:42:54 GMT -6
I actually really want PC Cell as I just started collecting recently... he's really expensive. So I hope its true along with a new Vegeta. Yeah, I had to shell out $150 for Cell last year. He's certainly not cheap, but seeing what the Trunks and Vegeta PC's did to the value of the originals i'm on the fence about whether it's a good idea or not. The aftermarket values are part of the allure that makes the series popular. When you lose that you lose a lot of collectors. What has the after market got to do with Figuarts profits? It doesn't mean jack. That's just a bunch of a-holes trying to rip people off and make a extra buck for themselves. It doesn't benefit a collector at all. I'm sorry but your post is really, really stupid. |
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Post by dizzy on Apr 2, 2016 18:28:33 GMT -6
Yeah, I had to shell out $150 for Cell last year. He's certainly not cheap, but seeing what the Trunks and Vegeta PC's did to the value of the originals i'm on the fence about whether it's a good idea or not. The aftermarket values are part of the allure that makes the series popular. When you lose that you lose a lot of collectors. What has the after market got to do with Figuarts profits? It doesn't mean jack. That's just a bunch of a-holes trying to rip people off and make a extra buck for themselves. It doesn't benefit a collector at all. I'm sorry but your post is really, really stupid. I think what he means is that one of the appealing factors of these figures is the fact that the become valuable. However, as they keep release the same figures over and over, this lowers the value of the original release. Although that may not bother you, some people may find the line less attractive knowing their collection isn't going to be worth anything in the future. This results in them not buying the figures in the first place, thus hurting the line in the grand scheme of things. This may not be the case we're looking at with these PC's or maybe it is, but his post was not really really stupid. |
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Post by typhoon20 on Apr 2, 2016 18:42:40 GMT -6
Screw the aftermarket and scalpers we want premium color Perfect Cell.  |
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Post by drowningrabbit on Apr 2, 2016 21:33:41 GMT -6
What has the after market got to do with Figuarts profits? It doesn't mean jack. That's just a bunch of a-holes trying to rip people off and make a extra buck for themselves. It doesn't benefit a collector at all. I'm sorry but your post is really, really stupid. I think what he means is that one of the appealing factors of these figures is the fact that the become valuable. However, as they keep release the same figures over and over, this lowers the value of the original release. Although that may not bother you, some people may find the line less attractive knowing their collection isn't going to be worth anything in the future. This results in them not buying the figures in the first place, thus hurting the line in the grand scheme of things. This may not be the case we're looking at with these PC's or maybe it is, but his post was not really really stupid. On the contrary, his post implies that he is investing his money in action figures and expecting to at least break even if he sells them, or make a profit. That investment is inherently stupid. Collect figures because you enjoy it, not to gain a profit later as that only works while the company producing the figures does not want to also cash in on the same market. This simply means the line will lost some steam via people no longer buying a case of a new 'exclusive' in hopes to make a profit down the line. All together a more healthy and realistic version of the lines popularity. I still look back and cannot fathom the people that bought cases of Vegito. The line hit its saturation point now where most people interested in the line and coming in now have a lot of figures that people excessively bought based on the old original releases prices ( Trunks, both Vegetas, Goku, and the SDCC versions ) and are now sitting on a lot of figures that were over produced due to the line booming in the last year. |
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Post by kanji on Apr 3, 2016 2:57:45 GMT -6
I need to clarify my post. I do not collect for resale. I own over 400 figures and have never sold or had the intention on selling any.
I am speaking from experience of collecting other lines over the past 15 years.
When aftermarket prices are expected to be high, collectors (such as myself) are quicker to purchase figures as soon as they are released (even if they don't want to, because they know it will cost them more later).
When the aftermarket prices don't change, there is no longer a need for that "day one purchase" mentality, you can collect at your own pace knowing the price will be the same. Over time this has a negative affect on the line, as some figures become shelf warmers and even drop in price, further negating that desire to buy on day one. Eventually figures can become cheaper to buy 2-3 months after release rather than on day one (even half price sometimes).
I watched this happen to the One Piece POP line, which is why Megahouse now have to rely 100% on Web exclusives and fan service to sell. I don't want to see the same happen to S.H.Figuarts which is why they need to be careful with production quantities and re-releases.
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Post by wiizardii01 on Apr 3, 2016 3:44:45 GMT -6
What has the after market got to do with Figuarts profits? It doesn't mean jack. That's just a bunch of a-holes trying to rip people off and make a extra buck for themselves. It doesn't benefit a collector at all. I'm sorry but your post is really, really stupid. I think what he means is that one of the appealing factors of these figures is the fact that the become valuable. However, as they keep release the same figures over and over, this lowers the value of the original release. Although that may not bother you, some people may find the line less attractive knowing their collection isn't going to be worth anything in the future. This results in them not buying the figures in the first place, thus hurting the line in the grand scheme of things. This may not be the case we're looking at with these PC's or maybe it is, but his post was not really really stupid. Then it just means we are stupid, or specifically the collectors not buying them because they wanna sell their figures later. If you buy stuff just to sell them later, you might aswell throw them out of the window. |
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Post by timone317 on Apr 3, 2016 11:27:36 GMT -6
The potential for profit will always be a positive selling point for web exclusives simply because investing in figures isn't wise. When buying a figure (of all things) for over $40 at a time it's great to know you can eventually get your money back, and in most cases profit comes with that.
Regarding the PCE releases...I don't think the effect Premium Color releases have on the original releases will ever be truly significant. As it stands now SS Vegeta and Trunks are still being sold over $100, which is still more than double the original price. It will take some time but within a few years not only with those prices slowly rise back up but the price of the PCE releases will also increase since they are web exclusives. I highly doubt collectors who abandon the Figuarts line because they are disgruntled that the value of their figures has dropped could possibly harm the line when compared to the number of people who are more than willing to leap on a lower price (which ultimately supports the line).
and...just to squeeze in a gratuitous opinion...I don't care how much Cell is supposedly worth, I hate it. It looks incredible but it's far too loose. I simply can't wait to see a PCE version with tightened joints.
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Post by silvershadow206 on Apr 3, 2016 11:32:18 GMT -6
The potential for profit will always be a positive selling point for web exclusives simply because investing in figures isn't wise. When buying a figure (of all things) for over $40 at a time it's great to know you can eventually get your money back, and in most cases profit comes with that. Regarding the PCE releases...I don't think the effect Premium Color releases have on the original releases will ever be truly significant. As it stands now SS Vegeta and Trunks are still being sold over $100, which is still more than double the original price. It will take some time but within a few years not only with those prices slowly rise back up but the price of the PCE releases will also increase since they are web exclusives. I highly doubt collectors who abandon the Figuarts line because they are disgruntled that the value of their figures has dropped could possibly harm the line when compared to the number of people who are more than willing to leap on a lower price (which ultimately supports the line). and... just to squeeze in a gratuitous opinion...I don't care how much Cell is supposedly worth, I hate it. It looks incredible but it's far too loose. I simply can't wait to see a PCE version with tightened joints. I completely agree, the model is amazing but it's far to lose to do much with, mines stood in my cabinet casually with its arms folded lol same with scouter Vegeta, their legs are just too weak |
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Post by silvershadow206 on Apr 3, 2016 11:39:45 GMT -6
Also, I don't particularly want or care for premium colour releases. I own the Premium Super Vegeta and in honesty a premium SSJ3 would be nice but there's FAR more they SHOULD be doing. Personally I would like to see
Kid Goku
Teen Bulma
Tien
Yamcha
Raditz
Nappa
Mr. Satan
Videl
Fat Buu
Super Buu or Kid Buu
Goten & Kid Trunks
Gotenks
SSJ4 Goku
SSJ4 Vegeta
SSJ4 Gogeta
Omega Shenron
Nova Shenron
Baby
Super 17
THEN carry on with the super stuff including some of the new saga characters. Then finally the premium colours
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Post by prodigy1367 on Apr 3, 2016 15:05:10 GMT -6
I just worry that a bulk of their releases will be PC and Super figures. I understand why they're churning out the Super characters since they want to capitalize on the new series but they need to space it out a bit more. So far it's been too many back to back releases and the stuff in between that have been PC's.
PC's should be reserved for figures that truly need them according to popular demand (like Trunks and Vegeta were) or simply because the OG wasn't good from the get go (SSJ3 and Cell). Basically they just need keep PC's to a mimimum and give variety between DB, DBZ, DBGT, and DBS.
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Post by vegetabreigh on Apr 3, 2016 20:37:03 GMT -6
Couldn't agree more Prodigy
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