Kleo
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Post by Kleo on Dec 9, 2020 1:15:21 GMT -6
Not sure if this is really the right thread, but I might as well ask, right? I already know this is probably the place to go if I want to start customizing in the first place, but where can I go to DISCUSS possible future customs, like just ideas and concepts and ideas for what parts to use, etc.? I have plenty of ideas floating around in my head, but I'm not sure if I actually want to do them or not, and I still need to even learn how to in the first place anyway. Also, do people on this forum ever take commissions for customs or can recommend anyone who does? Thanks <3
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Post by Branjita on Dec 9, 2020 10:28:38 GMT -6
Kleo I'm not sure if anybody on here still does commissions or not, but the best place to discuss concepts would definitely be in your own new thread! Just make a new thread titled "Misolo's works in progress" or something like that and you can talk about your ideas and show progress on what you're working on in that. For sharing pics, I definitely recommend going through this ordeal to set up Cloudinary! dragonballfigures.com/thread/3846/cloudinary-free-image-hosting-members It makes sharing images on here sooooo convenient. They actually came out with an updated version of Cloudinary I need to upgrade my own account to. I'm not sure how different the instructions will/would be to reflect that update though. Whenever I do that, I'll definitely post a reply to that thread and mention what I had to do.
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Post by Branjita on May 11, 2021 9:12:31 GMT -6
Testors has discontinued Model Masters paint as of (I think) April 2020. Why it's taken a year for anybody to really notice... I don't know. But Hobby Lobby currently has it on sale for $1 a bottle. It's time to go take advantage and stock up before it's impossible to find. It's on the model car aisle. Thanks to the massive clearance, I am finally going to try out a bunch of the colors they make. Most of their colors are tailored to automotive stuff, like leather, muscle car engine colors, transparent red blue and green, and a bunch of colors for military model kits. I have only depended on the Model Masters Flat Clear Acryl over the years... opting to use much cheaper Delta Ceramcoat acrylic paints for colors. The flat clear acryl protects my paint from getting scratched or chipped, and provides a fairly eggshell/flat finish... albeit a little milky. However, it's the only brush-on clear I've ever used and I've been using it for like 20 years. I'm looking forward to trying the MM colors and seeing why exactly a little bottle of acrylic paint would cost 4 to 10 times as much as the same quantity of Delta Ceramcoat. I'm hoping that I don't have to use any clear on top at all... I bought at least 20 bottles of various colors and some clears and mailed timone317 a few duplicates since I know he loves the MM paint colors. If you're a first time buyer (like me), make sure you read the label and just buy the acrylic paints (there's blue on the label). The enamel paints (I think they had red on the label) require paint thinner to clean your brushes and enamel paint is only appropriate (usually) for use on metal or wood if I remember right. So unless you plan on painting Hot Wheels or a little tiny picture frame, stay away from the enamel paint. Enamel has a bad habit of never fully drying on plastic and remaining sticky forever.
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Post by Ascat on Mar 15, 2024 0:57:56 GMT -6
has anyone tried 3d printing yet? i see a bunch of models online, but curious whats everyone's input before i pull the trigger
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Post by Branjita on Mar 15, 2024 8:31:36 GMT -6
Ascat I don't 3D print, but I have seen the results of a lot of it and talked to a bunch of people about it. Someone else might chime in with better first hand info, but I can give an overview. For 5 inch scale (or even smaller scale), 3D printing with PLA or ABS is too rough for characters. You end up with pieces that have to be sanded to remove the little grid bumps. Some people give their prints an acetone bath (I believe they put it in a bag or jar with the gas that liquid acetone gives off), and that softens the exterior kind of the same way the blur effect works in Photoshop. It's basically a loss of detail by melting the surface. PLA isn't toxic, but printing with ABS is highly toxic, and has to be done in a ventilated area. The benefit of ABS is that ABS plastic is a very durable plastic; it's one of the main plastics used in car interiors. So the underside of your center console glove box's lid is almost certainly ABS, as is the upper dash (the piece closest to the windshield), as well as the inner fender liners of the wheel wells and a bunch of other pieces. Printing replacement pieces for your car interior out of ABS is pretty reasonable. But most people I know with 3D printers print some of the most useless junk out of PLA. Resin printing is highly preferred for small scale prints, and the quality can be absolutely incredible. It has some extreme downsides though. I have a co-worker who does it and he told me all about it around a year ago. He's the one I am waiting for to print my Gregory. One downside is that uncured resin is so toxic that you have to have ventilation and you have to wear gloves, a respirator, and goggles when messing with it. And the clean up process is very wasteful and takes a lot of time. So while you can basically just randomly decide to set up your 3D printer to print something out of PLA before you leave to go to your job and you can come home to a finished print ready to mess with, you can't just do that with a resin printer. Working with resin is like working in a hazardous material lab from what my co-worker has told me. But resin prints don't necessarily need any prep before painting, and the surface can be extremely smooth and beautiful. In my personal opinion, 3D prints using PLA or ABS are not suitable for action figure collections if you're wanting to print characters. You could use them to print some larger stuff or stuff that doesn't need to be very smooth, like maybe some accessories. Resin prints are fantastic though... as long as you are just printing little statues. Hopefully that's a decent overview... that's reasonably accurate. With regard to the models online, a lot of them are so polygonal and lifeless that I don't personally think they look good in collections. Part of that is due to people ripping them out of Playstation games and similar. They end up looking VERY stiff and chiseled looking. The guy that designed the Gregory STL I bought does pretty good work. His Gregory is definitely his best though. He has two Oolongs that are pretty good, but I can tell just by looking at them that they will have some bothersome features when resin printed. The one without a hat has some strange looking human hands with long forearms and his nose is abruptly extruded from his face, so it won't look good when viewed from the side. The pants are a bit simplistic and melted looking compared to something hand sculpted. His DB one in the hat has better clothes, but the nose isn't right either. Still, for $6 each and a resin printer... you can have some reasonably good Oolongs. I think this person did a much better Oolong though. He has a very good looking nose. It's free too. Models like this will look melted when printed.
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Post by Ascat on Mar 15, 2024 23:46:21 GMT -6
thanks for the overview bran, i really honestly thought it was a simple print then paint. guess not...theres a printing service that is nearby me, and i was wondering if i should get my wishlist on that store instead. the guru figure that i want is only available on the dragon ball arise, and they tend to run 800-1k usd.
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Post by Ascat on Mar 15, 2024 23:48:02 GMT -6
this is thte main reason why i want this project
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Post by Branjita on Mar 18, 2024 8:35:52 GMT -6
Since Guru is huge, it might print in reasonable enough quality if you're prepared to sand it. You'd want to look at YouTube tutorials for sanding or softening 3D prints for advice though. I've never sanded one. They have such a high grit to their surface (they are rough), that I imagine they are a bit annoying to sand. I'd be concerned about chewing through the surface too quickly if using my dremel or electronic manicure tool, and hand sanding is such a pain. If you decide to hand sand something like that, the only advice I have is to go to Sally Beauty Supply and buy a few of their $0.50 small orange sanding blocks for fingernails. When I hand sand my custom figures, that's what I use.
It might also be possible to spray a few layers of primer on top of the 3D print to hide some of the details, but it may not give perfect results either, because all of the details would be reduced.
Guru could be printed by someone with a resin printer... so if you can find a service that will do that... that would save you a lot of time and effort having to deal with lower quality PLA or ABS prints.
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Post by Ascat on Mar 18, 2024 19:59:50 GMT -6
Since Guru is huge, it might print in reasonable enough quality if you're prepared to sand it. You'd want to look at YouTube tutorials for sanding or softening 3D prints for advice though. I've never sanded one. They have such a high grit to their surface (they are rough), that I imagine they are a bit annoying to sand. I'd be concerned about chewing through the surface too quickly if using my dremel or electronic manicure tool, and hand sanding is such a pain. If you decide to hand sand something like that, the only advice I have is to go to Sally Beauty Supply and buy a few of their $0.50 small orange sanding blocks for fingernails. When I hand sand my custom figures, that's what I use. It might also be possible to spray a few layers of primer on top of the 3D print to hide some of the details, but it may not give perfect results either, because all of the details would be reduced. Guru could be printed by someone with a resin printer... so if you can find a service that will do that... that would save you a lot of time and effort having to deal with lower quality PLA or ABS prints. ohhh man, thanks so much for this info bran, very very helpful. thanks man, im gonna look for someone who can possibly do resin. Other option is for masterlise to release a big guru? that dragon ball arise guru is just soo damn expensive.
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Post by Branjita on Jul 9, 2024 9:05:51 GMT -6
I got an email from Aves about 1/4 lb containers of Apoxie Sculpt being on sale right now because they are discontinuing several colors in the 1/4 lb size. If you're running low, or have been wanting to start customizing, the discount is significant. avesstudio.com/shop/apoxie-sculpt/ It's not every color. It's "RED, YELLOW, GREEN, BLUE, ORANGE, BROWN, BRONZE, SILVER GREY. Get them while they last, no code is needed! Don't worry, the other sizes are staying." So instead of being full price ($14.00), the 1/4 lb containers of only these colors are $6.95 each. My favorite (pink) isn't on sale. I prefer it, because it's the most similar to DBZ fleshtone and it is a dark enough color that I can see imperfections and shadows well enough while working on it. If I was running low, I would be buying yellow or orange. I haven't used yellow, but I would assume it's similar to pink in that it's dark enough to see imperfections. Orange is definitely dark enough, in fact I think it's a little too dark. Blue is alright, but I haven't tried painting over it yet. I used orange and blue both on Piccolo in this pic. My Apoxie Sculpt is around 5 years old, so the colors may have degraded a bit. My blue was pretty crusty, so I had to pick some hard chunks out. A newer batch of blue would probably be more blue than gray. If you're wanting some other product they sell, the code USA15 will get you 15% off until 7/21/24.
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