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Post by smalldogjr on Oct 17, 2015 11:38:06 GMT -6
I have sold my Pokemon figures which I started collecting since the 90s I had 500+ figures. I still have my figuarts lucario did you ever have Voltorb and Electrode tomys in your collection? i been always trying to find those but they always cost and arm and a leg
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 23, 2015 17:50:25 GMT -6
Grading collector cards is for nerds! Just saying... Thanks for reminding me to dust off my folder and take a gander. Looks like I went through a random Pokemon phase that I completely forgot about. It would seem that I did actually complete my collection after all. I've got all 151, including all altenates from jungle and fossil sets and all trainer cards, in mint condition. Good job younger me! Lol aren't we all nerds? We are on a forum for Dragonball? Anywho I am a nerd! A proud one too haha Any 1st Edition holo's within that collection of yours? The way I see it is, I still have plausible deniability and I can always shrug off my nerdom as being eccentricity or nostalgia, whereas you, since you opted to have it documented in paper work are now certifiably a NERD!!! Collector grading is just an idiot tax that dumb nerds pay to in order to boast to other nerds over percentiles, when in reality it does not actually improve upon said graded item's condition and logically should have no real effect on saleability. You dumb-dumbs can go right ahead and pay over the odds for what is essentially the same collectible in comparable condition, while I'll buy my non-graded collectibles for much much less. Idiots!
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 23, 2015 17:54:31 GMT -6
Second question, yes. I have my good old Machamp, but I feel like for some reason he shouldn't count. Weren't they all stamped first edition? LOL at Charizard first edition! I passed up an opportunity to buy one for 50 AUD and opted to buy the regular version for only 15 AUD, and thought I was being thrifty!
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Post by TheCollector on Oct 23, 2015 19:04:18 GMT -6
Yes, all Base Machamp are starter deck cards, and first edition. There's some Base Machamp missing first edition and these are up there with, first edition Base set cards.
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Post by darthbardock on Oct 24, 2015 14:22:17 GMT -6
Lol aren't we all nerds? We are on a forum for Dragonball? Anywho I am a nerd! A proud one too haha Any 1st Edition holo's within that collection of yours? The way I see it is, I still have plausible deniability and I can always shrug off my nerdom as being eccentricity or nostalgia, whereas you, since you opted to have it documented in paper work are now certifiably a NERD!!! Collector grading is just an idiot tax that dumb nerds pay to in order to boast to other nerds over percentiles, when in reality it does not actually improve upon said graded item's condition and logically should have no real effect on saleability. You dumb-dumbs can go right ahead and pay over the odds for what is essentially the same collectible in comparable condition, while I'll buy my non-graded collectibles for much much less. Idiots! You sir are an idiot . The reason why people buy graded items, is because it ensures a said condition, and it keeps your item's in that condition as well. So over time it retains it's value and also goes up. But most importantly the condition of the item stays the same and keeps that nostalgia! If you don't like graded items, that's fine. Some don't, but some do. Serious collectors see the reason for the desirability. I don't respect the negativity coming from you sir, so please keep it to yourself. Positive vibes only in this forum!
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Post by TheCollector on Oct 25, 2015 9:57:23 GMT -6
Darth, kai speaks his mind openly. Don't take offense to anything he says lol
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 25, 2015 19:37:17 GMT -6
The way I see it is, I still have plausible deniability and I can always shrug off my nerdom as being eccentricity or nostalgia, whereas you, since you opted to have it documented in paper work are now certifiably a NERD!!! Collector grading is just an idiot tax that dumb nerds pay to in order to boast to other nerds over percentiles, when in reality it does not actually improve upon said graded item's condition and logically should have no real effect on saleability. You dumb-dumbs can go right ahead and pay over the odds for what is essentially the same collectible in comparable condition, while I'll buy my non-graded collectibles for much much less. Idiots! You sir are an idiot . The reason why people buy graded items, is because it ensures a said condition, and it keeps your item's in that condition as well. So over time it retains it's value and also goes up. But most importantly the condition of the item stays the same and keeps that nostalgia! If you don't like graded items, that's fine. Some don't, but some do. Serious collectors see the reason for the desirability. I don't respect the negativity coming from you sir, so please keep it to yourself. Positive vibes only in this forum! Sure, I'm the idiot because I can see past the glistening plastic-coated facade of collector grading. Who's to say non-graded items can't be preserved in equally pristine condition, ensuring the same longevity of said item and appreciation of value; or that I for one, or any collector for that matter, is completely incapable of determining for one's self the condition of a collectible item. What a farce. You should change your name posthaste to dupebardock, because you sir have been duped! Serious collectors - blah! So you would gauge the seriousness of a collector based solely on their willingness to pay over the odds for a graded collectible. You say serious, I say stupidity. It's basically a tamato vs. tomato situation. However, in this instance you seem to be sitting on the tamato camp. Be honest with yourself, the only reason you and your fellow "serious" super-nerd commrades love collector grading so much is because you can easily wipe clean the plastic coating after you nerd-gasm all over it.
Collector grading is not for serious collectors, as a matter of fact it is actually quite the opposite - it is for noobs! Hear me out on this one. The real reason people/idiots purchase collector graded items is because of the assurance of said collectible's value as a prospective investment, because they are incapable of accurately approximating a collectibles worth for themselves - because they lack the necessary knowledge and skills acquired through years of trials and tribulations of being a collector.
Collector grading also opens up the possibility for people who have absolutely no business whatsoever owning said collectibles. People whom purchase a collectible not out of passion, or love for, or even an appreciation of its sentimental/nostalgic value, but solely for its worth as a prospective investment.
You say collector grading assures that a collectible will certainly retain its value, or better yet - appreciate. This is painfully wrong. Investments are a gamble. There's no such this as a sound investment. Above all else, the collector market fluctuates more often than the stock market - thus attracting people who are purely out to capitalise on market trends. There's absolutely no way of guaranteeing that a collectible's value won't actually depreciate over time. Don't be daft!
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 25, 2015 19:58:38 GMT -6
Think of a collector graded price as an appraisal, whereas a non-collector graded price as a valuation. Capiche!
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Post by darthbardock on Oct 26, 2015 1:25:07 GMT -6
Darth, kai speaks his mind openly. Don't take offense to anything he says lol I can tell lol.
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Post by darthbardock on Oct 26, 2015 1:26:04 GMT -6
You sir are an idiot . The reason why people buy graded items, is because it ensures a said condition, and it keeps your item's in that condition as well. So over time it retains it's value and also goes up. But most importantly the condition of the item stays the same and keeps that nostalgia! If you don't like graded items, that's fine. Some don't, but some do. Serious collectors see the reason for the desirability. I don't respect the negativity coming from you sir, so please keep it to yourself. Positive vibes only in this forum! Sure, I'm the idiot because I can see past the glistening plastic-coated facade of collector grading. Who's to say non-graded items can't be preserved in equally pristine condition, ensuring the same longevity of said item and appreciation of value; or that I for one, or any collector for that matter, is completely incapable of determining for one's self the condition of a collectible item. What a farce. You should change your name posthaste to dupebardock, because you sir have been duped! Serious collectors - blah! So you would gauge the seriousness of a collector based solely on their willingness to pay over the odds for a graded collectible. You say serious, I say stupidity. It's basically a tamato vs. tomato situation. However, in this instance you seem to be sitting on the tamato camp. Be honest with yourself, the only reason you and your fellow "serious" super-nerd commrades love collector grading so much is because you can easily wipe clean the plastic coating after you nerd-gasm all over it.
Collector grading is not for serious collectors, as a matter of fact it is actually quite the opposite - it is for noobs! Hear me out on this one. The real reason people/idiots purchase collector graded items is because of the assurance of said collectible's value as a prospective investment, because they are incapable of accurately approximating a collectibles worth for themselves - because they lack the necessary knowledge and skills acquired through years of trials and tribulations of being a collector.
Collector grading also opens up the possibility for people who have absolutely no business whatsoever owning said collectibles. People whom purchase a collectible not out of passion, or love for, or even an appreciation of its sentimental/nostalgic value, but solely for its worth as a prospective investment.
You say collector grading assures that a collectible will certainly retain its value, or better yet - appreciate. This is painfully wrong. Investments are a gamble. There's no such this as a sound investment. Above all else, the collector market fluctuates more often than the stock market - thus attracting people who are purely out to capitalise on market trends. There's absolutely no way of guaranteeing that a collectible's value won't actually depreciate over time. Don't be daft!
As much as I strongly disagree. Like it or not, people are free to do what they wish to their personal items especially the ones they never intend on parting with. Good day sir
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 26, 2015 3:42:26 GMT -6
And good day to you too, Mr. Peanut!
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