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Post by gil on Mar 5, 2015 12:59:46 GMT -6
I don't see anything wrong with him buying multiple figures to sell for a profit later on. I'm pretty sure he worked hard to earn those money that he use for these figures. So there's nothing wrong about investing those money and one of the easy way is this figuarts line. If you don't want to fall for the scalpers price then you should get your figures on time, go pre-order it.
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Post by thinkcure54 on Mar 5, 2015 14:39:12 GMT -6
I don't have a problem with people buying more for profit later down the line. But some people go overboard buying like 7 or 10 and messing it up for those extra 3 or 4 people that could've gotten the figure at retail
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Post by MajinRob on Mar 5, 2015 14:53:51 GMT -6
I don't have a problem with people buying more for profit later down the line. But some people go overboard buying like 7 or 10 and messing it up for those extra 3 or 4 people that could've gotten the figure at retail ..and thats exactly whats happening here. He's purchasing 30 to sell at a profit down the road. When multiple scalpers buy in bulk this way it creates a false shortage of figures, raising the price and making the figure become rare prematurely. Say scalpers didn't buy so many figures, there'd be more to go around and less people would have to buy them at a premium price down the road. Yes, people should pre-order them to ensure they get their product at MSRP. I do this, every single time. However, some people who collect these figures have to budget and thus wait to pre-order or wait to purchase and when a figure sells out prematurely due to scalpers hoarding figures, it puts them in a position to have to pay a premium. I also consider that many of those collecting these figures are adults with money to spend, I get that they can spend their hard earned money on anything they want, but at the same time there's younger kids out there who have a smaller income that they receive less often and thus also feel the back hand of scalping like this. It doesn't seem like a huge issue when one person is doing it, but the bigger picture is that hundreds of people do this and it adds up. It's exactly why diamonds are "rare" and expensive. They're not exactly rare, they're just monopolized by people who are manipulating the market and driving up the price.
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Post by Bardoon on Mar 5, 2015 15:38:20 GMT -6
Great posts MajinRob.
That's one thing that surprises me about this forum is the "open" attitude towards reselling and scalping. I thought this was a site to share our love for Dragon Ball item COLLECTING, not identifying potential profit.
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Post by timone317 on Mar 5, 2015 15:46:08 GMT -6
lot of people here. It's impossible to say the entire site has an open attitude towards reselling...many people may just be staying quiet about the topic. It's a tough thing to discuss publicly...calling out people for their spending habits, what they choose to do with the things they buy (right or wrong)...so much can be said about scalping but at the end of the day what can be done to change the way things are? I feel that every single person that buys a Figuarts figure will "scalp" at some point for various reasons. It almost seems like something that shouldn't even be brought up.
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Post by Tien2415 on Mar 5, 2015 15:50:55 GMT -6
lot of people here. It's impossible to say the entire site has an open attitude towards reselling...many people may just be staying quiet about the topic. It's a tough thing to discuss publicly...calling out people for their spending habits, what they choose to do with the things they buy (right or wrong)...so much can be said about scalping but at the end of the day what can be done to change the way things are? I feel that every single person that buys a Figuarts figure will "scalp" at some point for various reasons. It almost seems like something that shouldn't even be brought up. I agree Tim. I for one don't want to sell my figures, but if I ever had to sell them for some reason I would. And I would try to get the most amount of profit out of them. But I also agree that we shouldn't call people out for there spending habits.
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Post by prodigy1367 on Mar 5, 2015 15:52:52 GMT -6
I personally don't buy my figures to sell them. I keep all of my figures out of their boxes and display them proudly, hopefully for the rest of my life. BUT if for some reason for emergency reasons I was absolutely forced to sell my figures you bet I'm gonna charge for what they're going for. I bought SSJ Vegeta for $160 back in the day and if I had to sell him now I would charge the going rate. I'm sure there's NO ONE on this site or any site that would buy a figure for retail, see it go up in price, and IF they have to sell it, choose to sell it for retail or at a discount. Obviously they would sell it for what it's worth.
With these figures even if everyone is able to buy the entire Tamashii stock at retail, eventually, some would be sold. Since the product is no longer available, a premium gets charged, thus a scalper's market emerges. This is only because this is a limited release line. If they kept releasing them, there would be no huge demand since there's plenty to go around.
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Post by Bardoon on Mar 5, 2015 16:01:41 GMT -6
lot of people here. It's impossible to say the entire site has an open attitude towards reselling...many people may just be staying quiet about the topic. It's a tough thing to discuss publicly...calling out people for their spending habits, what they choose to do with the things they buy (right or wrong)...so much can be said about scalping but at the end of the day what can be done to change the way things are? I feel that every single person that buys a Figuarts figure will "scalp" at some point for various reasons. It almost seems like something that shouldn't even be brought up. Perhaps "open" is the wrong word to be used. Let's say I've never seen people so "verbal" about buying more for reselling. And you are right, timone, it is actually quite prevalent in the wide collecting community, especially thanks to exclusives, limited runs,etc. However, most of the forums I frequent (Like SSF and a few others) I've NEVER seen people show off their resell products or discuss about the profit they could make. I have no doubt people do it elsewhere, but to openly talk about it on most of the collecting forums I've been on is considered taboo. To each their own though. I don't agree with it, but it's your all's money.
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Post by MajinRob on Mar 5, 2015 16:23:53 GMT -6
I don't mind people selling their collection at the going rate, that's much different than hoarding multiples of each figure with the intent to resell.
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Post by timone317 on Mar 5, 2015 16:28:54 GMT -6
Again, it just seems best to look the other way on this particular issue. So much can be said but it seems little can truly be accomplished.
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Post by ToadKart on Mar 5, 2015 16:35:09 GMT -6
I don't have a problem with people buying more for profit later down the line. But some people go overboard buying like 7 or 10 and messing it up for those extra 3 or 4 people that could've gotten the figure at retail ..and thats exactly whats happening here. He's purchasing 30 to sell at a profit down the road. When multiple scalpers buy in bulk this way it creates a false shortage of figures, raising the price and making the figure become rare prematurely. Say scalpers didn't buy so many figures, there'd be more to go around and less people would have to buy them at a premium price down the road. Yes, people should pre-order them to ensure they get their product at MSRP. I do this, every single time. However, some people who collect these figures have to budget and thus wait to pre-order or wait to purchase and when a figure sells out prematurely due to scalpers hoarding figures, it puts them in a position to have to pay a premium. I also consider that many of those collecting these figures are adults with money to spend, I get that they can spend their hard earned money on anything they want, but at the same time there's younger kids out there who have a smaller income that they receive less often and thus also feel the back hand of scalping like this. It doesn't seem like a huge issue when one person is doing it, but the bigger picture is that hundreds of people do this and it adds up. It's exactly why diamonds are "rare" and expensive. They're not exactly rare, they're just monopolized by people who are manipulating the market and driving up the price. That's the thing though. It's going to happen anyway. All the scalpers out there aren't going to just suddenly stop. Collecting can be an expensive hobby, so if there's an easy and little/no risk way of making some extra cash to spend on said hobby, then yeah I'm going to do it. And honestly, not to sound like an ass(though I probably do), but someone not being able to purchase a piece of plastic at MSRP is a first world problem, and not one I feel too sorry about. If someone's on a tight budget and can't afford to set aside $30-$50 every few months to pre-order, then they must have more important things to spend their money on than expensive collector's action figures.
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Post by jonmichael on Mar 5, 2015 17:04:14 GMT -6
I don't care what people do, nor am I going to tell people how to spend their money. But, I will say it's kind of in poor taste to be posting so openly about it, a little bit. On most other collector forums I'm on posting about scalping will get you ragged on big time, basically demonize you on the forum, and maybe even get you banned. Someone posted on the Fwoosh about scalping, and everyone pretty much said they hoped he got cancer of the dick... Just get ready for hate when you post about it.
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Post by Bardoon on Mar 5, 2015 17:07:17 GMT -6
I don't care what people do, but I will say it's kind of in poor taste to be posting so openly about it. On most other collector forums I'm on posting about scalping will get you ragged on big time, basically demonize you on the forum, and maybe even get you banned. Someone posted on the Fwoosh about scalping, and everyone pretty much said they hoped he got cancer of the dick... Yup! That's the kind of collecting culture I'm familiar with.
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Post by jonmichael on Mar 5, 2015 17:15:22 GMT -6
But, that's not me wishing anything negative on anyone. Don't think that. I understand that it is an investment, just like any other business. I wish I had the money to buy so many.
But, I wouldn't sell them, I'd just cover myself in a kiddy pool full of Dragon Ball.
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Post by ToadKart on Mar 5, 2015 17:22:06 GMT -6
I don't care what people do, nor am I going to tell people how to spend their money. But, I will say it's kind of in poor taste to be posting so openly about it, a little bit. On most other collector forums I'm on posting about scalping will get you ragged on big time, basically demonize you on the forum, and maybe even get you banned. Someone posted on the Fwoosh about scalping, and everyone pretty much said they hoped he got cancer of the dick... Just get ready for hate when you post about it. Kinda ironic seeing as how those people wishing cancer on someone(even in a joking manner like the "of the dick" variety) is a worse thing to do than scalping. But
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