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Post by volt on Jul 20, 2023 12:05:52 GMT -6
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Post by Branjita on Jul 20, 2023 13:04:40 GMT -6
I've posted a lot of SDCC pics and videos I found here: dragonballfigures.com/thread/4295/sdcc-2023As far as SHF is concerned, it seems like the Roshi prototype being on display and SHF prototypes of King Cold and Cyborg Frieza are the only big news. Granted, KC and CF are BIGGGGG news! Tamashii is supposed to be doing a livestream right now, but it hasn't started yet for some reason.
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Post by solubletoast on Jul 20, 2023 13:21:30 GMT -6
I see the OG Dragonball line on clearance everywhere too.you can't shift most of them. The only ones that seemed to gain any value were Goku and Roshi. Maybe the Bulmas?
I still think OG Yamcha would be a really popular choice so they should at least do him.
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Post by Ascat on Jul 20, 2023 21:21:07 GMT -6
King Cold is a thing of beauty!! I’m quite curious how his shoulder pads will function with the cape also attached. And a bigger version of Trunks’ sword would be sweet, but what I’m really hoping for is a glass of red wine as an accessory. Mecha Frieza looks sweet too, my only complaint is the lack of shading on his head and chest scars. I’m also curious about why some of his mechanical head pieces look removable… Perhaps to recreate the scene when he’s being put together? Definitely pre-ordering these two when they pop up (Only downside is I imagine it could be up to a year away). lol sounds like an sdcc idea, with a throne and a wine.
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Post by ollymovics on Jul 21, 2023 4:07:41 GMT -6
This new Kid Goku means to me that the DB line is definitely not a good seller for Bandai. After 2 years, all we got left is Goku, the hero. Wich is interesting BTW, with angry faces that the regular one didn't have. But why only for the US ? Regarding the DB classic era is not that much popular there (that's what i read several times), at least not as much as GT and Super, i'm really wondering what's the strategy here. People have been debating this for years. Nobody wants to accept that the classic DB line is on its last legs. They’ll squeeze out a couple more figures & that’s it. Any General Blue or Android #8 fans out there are out of luck. I don't want to accept it neither, but i guess we have no choice, it really looks like it's over. For me, Bandit Yamcha with Puerh is THE huge missing figure from that line, he's one of the main characters of that era. To me he's the most legit from all the unmade characters. Oolong should definitely have been done as well.
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Post by Branjita on Jul 21, 2023 9:33:16 GMT -6
Surely they will eventually make DB Yamcha. The entire DB line is incomplete without him. I can understand Oolong missing (as an articulated figure beyond the level of Guldo), but Yamcha? No way. Bandai's not stupid, I don't think. Considering they are releasing a new DB Kid Goku, I wouldn't assume the DB line is dead, but perhaps that is just wishful thinking! From my point of view, they did prioritize the wrong characters and made them scale unusually with each other, both of which hurt their sales. Goku and Krillin are big headed and too large bodied (way too tall), Master Roshi and Jackie Chun are also big headed and too large, but not as grossly oversized as Kid Goku or Krillin, and then there's a Bulma from a manga cover that makes very little sense compared to other outfits. If they had made Bulma the same scale as Kid Goku, then they could have gotten people to buy absolutely enormous figures I guess. But they didn't do that. They made her approximately the same scale as the DBZ figures. So if you buy the DB figures, you have this awkward inconsistency where Goku and Krillin look great together, and Master Roshi and Jackie Chun more-or-less blend in with them. But then everybody else is this strange question of "what will Mercenary Tao look like with the others?" and etc. Truly, all they needed to do to blow people out of the water and get them to start buying all of them, was to make this cast of characters, and make them scale with each other: After making them, they needed to make a Roshi that came with Umigame (turtle). From there, they would have the foundation for building the world of Dragon Ball. A Kame house playset could have been made as basically a doll house, and it would have been fun to display with, but only if Umigame was produced (in my opinion). If I was Tamashii, I would then make Pilaf, Shuu, and Mai, and risked the fear that not many people would buy them. If the entire cast above existed, then I would think people would have bought them. Then they could have released a giant Oozaru Goku! BOOM! MONEY! They needed to take people through Dragon Ball, because unlike Dragon Ball Z, not everyone has seen Dragon Ball, and they could have encouraged people to watch it by taking people through it saga-by-saga with the figures. What they tried to do was "the greatest hits" of Dragon Ball (from my perspective), by focusing on the villains that Kid Goku fought, with some random fan favorites thrown in. But doing this left the cast of releases very awkward. I don't know what their reasoning was for producing Launch or Chi Chi, but I'm guessing it was an attempt to turn the line around and fill in the gaps...? (Sidenote: it's worth mentioning that Chi Chi is like Master Roshi's scale... she's not as big headed as Goku and Krillin... and so she's another odd figure that doesn't quite fit in with others). I know there are plenty of collectors who say that they don't care about scale and that things like this don't bother them. I have trouble believing that, but even if that's true, the cast still leaves the DB line of SHF in an awkward spot. Doing a large group of these figures doesn't work too well, because there are too many missing key characters. To cut this short, I'd just like to ask this: Who owns Jackie Chun? Why? Other than being posed with Goku, he has no place in anyone's collection. He has a big body, a big head, and if you don't pair him with Kid Goku, he has no "friend" to pose with. I would assume he was the worst selling figure (and subsequently the rarest?). Most of the characters they made in the DB line are like this. Other than Launch, who basically doesn't fit in very well at all (though I do appreciate that they made her), every single character links with Kid Goku and almost no one else. Dragon Ball was a happy, adventure anime, about the cast and their friendship. Sure, Goku was the star, and he was the one who fought a lot of villains, but it wasn't like DBZ, DBGT, or DBS, where the focus was on fighting and action. A DB display without Oolong, Puar, and Yamcha looks as awkward as a Power Rangers display that only has the red ranger, green ranger, and 5 villains. You have to have the blue, yellow, pink, and black ranger. That supporting cast is important. Image via Rockchala
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Post by hono on Jul 21, 2023 9:48:01 GMT -6
I had almost all of the DB classic figures, but then I sold them and kept only Kid Goku, Piccolo and Roshi (even though he is too big he is a must in the collection).
When Namek Bulma was released I sold my Bulma with Pink Dress too, because I think 2 Bulmas are too much.
As I wanted all the dragon balls, in the end I got a WCF accessory and that's it.
Personally, at this point I would get only Yajirobe to display in the saiyan saga.
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Post by mcre on Jul 21, 2023 11:50:44 GMT -6
To cut this short, I'd just like to ask this: Who owns Jackie Chun? Why? Other than being posed with Goku, he has no place in anyone's collection. He has a big body, a big head, and if you don't pair him with Kid Goku, he has no "friend" to pose with. I would assume he was the worst selling figure (and subsequently the rarest?). Most of the characters they made in the DB line are like this. Other than Launch, who basically doesn't fit in very well at all (though I do appreciate that they made her), every single character links with Kid Goku and almost no one else. Dragon Ball was a happy, adventure anime, about the cast and their friendship. Sure, Goku was the star, and he was the one who fought a lot of villains, but it wasn't like DBZ, DBGT, or DBS, where the focus was on fighting and action. A DB display without Oolong, Puar, and Yamcha looks as awkward as a Power Rangers display that only has the red ranger, green ranger, and 5 villains. You have to have the blue, yellow, pink, and black ranger. That supporting cast is important. I agree with all your points regarding the order in which they should've released the characters. If the line is truly dead and I never get Pilaf, Shuu, and Mai, that's gonna bug me for the rest of my life. Regarding scale, I agree with your assessment, though I admit I'm one of those for whom scale isn't a huge deal as long as it's "close enough". I have kid Goku, Roshi, Bulma ("Journey Begins"), and Lunch all standing together in my display, and while I would prefer a more unified scale, ultimately they look fine to me.
More importantly, I do have Jackie Chun! I couldn't not get him for a number of reasons: first and foremost, I love classic DRAGON BALL. It's my favorite part of the entire saga, and there was no way I wasn't going to get every figure they made from the series. So there was really never a doubt I would get Jackie, and I really like him. He has amusing faceplates, and I also like having the option to swap heads and put Roshi in his black clothes.
Currently Jackie is posed with Kid Krillin in my display to recreate their battle at the 21st tournament, though at one time I had him with the microphone and peace sign hand and goofy face, and at another point he was posed with the Roshi head and rice cooker, battling King Piccolo.
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Post by aquamarina on Jul 21, 2023 11:51:30 GMT -6
I currently only have Kid Goku and Tao Pai Pai from the dragon ball line. The former I mainly just posed on his own riding on Nimbus when he was out and the latter is still in the box and was mainly an impulse clearance buy. I do want to get some more though
I’m guessing Launch was kind of a last ditch effort “boost interest in the line” sort of figure. The best selling/most desired figure in the DB line seems to be Roshi (not counting kid Goku) and that’s probably because even if the scale isn’t the best he works as a stand in for a general DBZ/Dragon Ball display. So Launch was probably a “maybe it’ll get people who like her/lump her in with the rest of the cast to buy more of the line after getting her”, don’t know if I’m explaining well but needless to say it probably didn’t work lol (she is the one I want the most though I really need to order her soon lol)
The scale isn’t the biggest issue for me (Kid Goku’s head is huge but it doesn’t detract from the figure too much for me honestly) but they really should have made him and Krillin smaller. I feel like Goku, Krillin, Bulma, Yamcha, and Roshi are the figures that’d be most important to a Dragon Ball line and they kind of dropped the ball on all of them
Manga Cover Bulma is a cool figure but doing her before the pink dress Bulma and both in the same wave was a truly dumb choice, they at least could have included a static/Guldo-esque Oolong with pink dress Bulma. Then they just never even made Yamcha which is still so strange, he should have been in the first wave and I think would have gotten more people who would be interested in a db figure set into the line
The villains sold terribly and I don’t get why they were regular retail releases, same with Jackie Chun and Kid Chi Chi who are both very niche figures with a small market.
It’s also why I’m surprised we never got any 23rd tenkaichi budokai figures since those would fit with the “normal” z, GT and super stuff better and could get more people interested. With someone like that arc’s Chi Chi I could see a Roshi situation where people not normally interested in the line would buy one just to have a version of her in their set
I’m guessing the DB line underperforming is why everything that’s not Goku/Vegeta/some other major Saiyan thing, or one of the main arc villains from Z’s major forms only get released on P-Bandai now with few exceptions (like Krillin and Piccolo, or Jiren)
Like Beast Gohan didn’t even get a retail release, the big new form in Super Hero. Neither did Raditz or Hit who were pretty significant antagonists in their arcs, or even TOP 17 who was hugely important in the TOP.
I’m rambling and not really making any real points but I really wish they’d handled things better, I kind of think it’s dead at this point. I just really hope we somehow get Yamcha and some 23rd tenkaichi budokai stuff some day but I’m not holding my breath either
Edit: also on Jackie Chun I’ve thought about getting him mainly because I just wanted a Roshi, ended up getting the Dragon Stars one as a placeholder instead though. Might still get him but I’m not too sure what’d I’d do with him outside finding some weird pose maybe lol. Having figures for something to go with doesn’t nescarilt matter for me. I buy a lot of Dragon Ball figuarts villains in general partially because I use them for my Sailor Moon figures to fight in poses lol
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Post by mcre on Jul 21, 2023 11:51:54 GMT -6
That Tournament of Power walk-up scene has me really wishing for a DB SUPER Tien.
And a Saiyan Saga/SUPER Krillin. Though I suppose they would need to be separate figures, since his gi is considerably lighter in SUPER than it was in early DBZ.
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Post by Branjita on Jul 21, 2023 12:43:47 GMT -6
I posted this elsewhere, but since so many people only look at this thread, I wanted to post this here as well. DBGT Goku is smaller than DB Goku. This is good for people who don't want a gigantic Goku fighting Omega Shenron, Rilldo, Super 17, etc. in the future.
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Post by derelictbadger on Jul 21, 2023 13:37:17 GMT -6
On the subject of Dragonball, there was a point where I was seriously thinking about going all in on them. I have Goku, Krillin and the first Bulma. Not too long ago, I noticed that a couple of UK sites had a few of the others for decent prices (I think Lunch was down to £25, Jackie around £30). I very nearly bought them and Piccolo, hesitated, and then either Super Saiyan 4 Goku or Vegeta was revealed and I realised having a full set of GT figures was a real possibility. I decided I’d rather that. Given Goku is actually near the right size for a kid Goku, I think that’s a good decision. I just hope they keep selling and the line isn’t incomplete (I’m imagining Goku and Trunks being made with no Pan…)
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Post by yarlick on Jul 21, 2023 14:37:54 GMT -6
For Dragon Ball, I have :
Manga Back Cover Bulma Goku Krillin Piccolo Daimao
...And that's all?
Roshi was too big, I don't care about Tao Pai Pai but he was a great choice. The characters that are missing are : Some Red Ribbon characters Kami Yajirobe 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Chichi
At the very least, i would get Kami, Yaji et Chichi.
But yeah, let's just say that the DB line is kinda dormant. And from what I understand, American people are not as invested in DB as they are in DBZ so that feels pretty normal to me.
As for GT, Pan is a must have, if they skip her, I'll riot.
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Post by tabuuforteakugun on Jul 21, 2023 14:41:45 GMT -6
I have only one DB one myself, I think. Kid Chi Chi.
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Post by gokubr on Jul 21, 2023 15:02:47 GMT -6
I have mixed feelings about the classic line. So far I have Shenron, Bulma w/ pink dress, kid Goku, Kid Krillin, Kid Chichi, Roshi, Piccolo Daimaoh and Tao.
I want Lunch as well, but I'm looking for a better price.
I'm satisfied with what I have so far, I don't think I'd bother buying other classic stuff. Maybe Kid Goku with blue gi.
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