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Post by solubletoast on Feb 2, 2023 7:43:35 GMT -6
DB isn't the greatest at establishing lore. Toriyama was horrendous at forgetting lore and contradicting himself over and over.
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Post by yarlick on Feb 2, 2023 8:08:33 GMT -6
He is known for that heh, he even forgot about SSJ3 at one point so...
It's like, when the Bardock TV special was released, he was like "ho, that's actually a good story, let's put that Bardock in a panel of my manga", then years later : "So here is the story of Bardock and his wife Gine"
It's not that I despise Dragon Ball Minus or even the Broly movie, the Broly movie actually tried to do better than Minus, but so far, the badass Bardock is Z Bardock, not the new one. That's not for nothing that we have the original Bardock as a figure and not that travesty that is the DBS Bardock.
The only thing they can do to salvage Bardock in DBS would be to retell the full story and bringing back the epicness of the Father of Goku episode.
That's juste me ranting though.
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Post by crisis on Feb 2, 2023 9:58:01 GMT -6
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Post by mcre on Feb 2, 2023 10:45:11 GMT -6
I enjoy the simplicity too, but for me it’s just a bit too much surface-level. They expand the lore only the minimal amount & never go further. I don’t need every little thing explained, but learning of Frieza’s lineage has been a mystery forever. I was happy when they said in the movie Prince Vegeta was the 4th in his royal family, showing that they have been in power for a long time Little stuff like that shows that they put some thought into the backstory, and I appreciate that. Most of the characters/villains are very one-dimensional when there’s so much room for improvement. Just give us some more meat on the bones without retconning anything that’s been established (I HATED how they made Bardock “not such a bad guy” when originally he was a typical medium-high class Saiyan that didn’t care for his son(s), only angered when his teammates were slaughtered. For lack of better words, with the exception of a handful, the Saiyans were dicks. And that’s how I liked it. I find that Dragon Balls nuance is in it's long term characterization and relationships. I watched the Toriyama movies recently and it's moments like Bulma picking on Krillin, Gohan learning Videls pregnant, Piccolo training Pan, and Goku razzing Bulma that give Dragon Ball its heart.
I totally agree with this. I always liked DBZ, but when I watched the original DB, it won me over as my favorite iteration because it had a lot more of that stuff (plus the power levels were much, much lower and believable, which helped too). One of the reasons I really enjoyed Super was that it had a ton of those sorts of character moments, plus several goofy comedy episodes with a bit of an original DB feel, in between the major story arcs.
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Post by gokubr on Feb 2, 2023 11:50:55 GMT -6
They forgot to add Rainbow collors on the top of that.
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Post by jj on Feb 2, 2023 11:59:17 GMT -6
I find that Dragon Balls nuance is in it's long term characterization and relationships. I watched the Toriyama movies recently and it's moments like Bulma picking on Krillin, Gohan learning Videls pregnant, Piccolo training Pan, and Goku razzing Bulma that give Dragon Ball its heart.
I totally agree with this. I always liked DBZ, but when I watched the original DB, it won me over as my favorite iteration because it had a lot more of that stuff (plus the power levels were much, much lower and believable, which helped too). One of the reasons I really enjoyed Super was that it had a ton of those sorts of character moments, plus several goofy comedy episodes with a bit of an original DB feel, in between the major story arcs.
Yeah! One of my favorite Super moments is from Bulma and Goku in Broly: It feels cut strait out of OG Dragon Ball and shows such consideration for their relationship. Goku's known Bulma for so long he's able to cut right to the fact she's been using the Dragon Balls for essentially deaging herself lol. Z, from Saiyan saga to Cell, I think does the same, but Toriyama kind of flipped the tone from comedy to tragedy, so the character moments are always dire. (Piccolo's sacrifice, Vegeta's admission, Krillins death, etc.) I also would love a Bulma Figuarts from Super! I think I would want her Resurrection of F look? Would pair well with a Jaco. (Keeping on topic lol)
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Post by derpingpikachu on Feb 2, 2023 18:08:29 GMT -6
I'd love a new Bulma figure. I've always been a fan of the Buu Saga red dress personally.
Also anyone know how to change my username on here?
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Post by crimsonking7 on Feb 2, 2023 19:42:52 GMT -6
I'd love a new Bulma figure. I've always been a fan of the Buu Saga red dress personally. Also anyone know how to change my username on here? At least one more Bulma is needed but a Videl and adult Chichi need to be done also! I wonder when they’ll announce the inevitable Cell Max now that Beast Gohan with the beam cannon he used to kill Cell Max has been announced.
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Post by jj on Feb 2, 2023 19:45:08 GMT -6
I'd love a new Bulma figure. I've always been a fan of the Buu Saga red dress personally. Also anyone know how to change my username on here? It would be easy to do a premium colored version of that dress with Battle of the Gods as well; could recreate the infamous slap from Beerus.
Under the option where you could do so, it says "Changing Display Names is not permitted." As for how to get to where to do so...
Once you are on your profile page, click on the button for Edit Profile. You'll then be taken to the Edit Profile & Settings page; once here, click on the Personal tab. When the Personal tab loads, you'll see the first option on the page for Display Name.
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Post by crisis on Feb 2, 2023 19:50:09 GMT -6
crimsonking7 I can see a lot of collectors skipping Cell Max for the same reason(s) they skipped buying Porunga
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Post by aquamarina on Feb 2, 2023 20:20:11 GMT -6
I’m honestly not sure they’ll even make Cell Max for exactly that reason, he doesn’t even have nostalgia going for him like Great Ape Vegeta or Porunga since he’s from such a new movie, I feel like they’ll probably skip making him
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Post by tabuuforteakugun on Feb 2, 2023 20:42:00 GMT -6
At least for now ^ I have a feeling Max might have to wait a few years.
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Post by bcapp on Feb 3, 2023 3:14:10 GMT -6
I think they will do a Cell Max in 2024 and of course people will buy it lol. Of your a fan then why wouldn’t you? He will look amazing paired up with Beast Gohan. Maybe they will do a giant piccolo too. Just hopefully more giant characters won’t be any shorter than Porunga. When they make the regular Great Ape I hope to see it around that size. Shenron on the other hand looks ridiculously tiny next to Porunga, I’ll take a 2.0 of that one too.
Got my 3 Beast Gohans on preorder, All ready for August 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
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Post by yarlick on Feb 3, 2023 4:08:49 GMT -6
Honestly, I don't care about Cell Max, I didn't even buy Great Ape Vegeta because he was too big and too expensive.
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Post by solubletoast on Feb 3, 2023 8:30:21 GMT -6
I'm probably gonna skip the pre order on Beast Gohan. I got the DL custom headsculpt and it holds up really well. I'll look at picking up the official when he releases. ( If I can't get a hold of it it's not gonna bother me) Really need to get the pre order in for 3rd form Frieza but I keep missing him on Hobby Genki whenever new stock comes in and I'm asleep.😂
Cell Max would look amazing on a shelf..his colouring is really vibrant..I'm sure they'll release him, especially since Gohan came with the masenko.
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