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Post by Bardoon on Oct 30, 2015 12:20:28 GMT -6
WOW!
Freaking amazing!! Tamashii Nations came STRONG on the Dragon Ball front! I love what we're seeing!
Saiyan Armor Trunks: Awesome figure! Great looking sculpt with muscularity to match. Hopefully they keep the shading on the figure. Does this also open the door for Cell Saga Vegeta? They finally have the "ribbed boots"! Also notice Tamashii's improvement on sculpting? Look at how the hip joints are constructed. Very stream-lined while attempting to keep a lot of poseability. Interesting to see it work.
GT Adult Goku: I believe this is mostly what most of us collectors call a "Frankenstein" figure. Meaning it is a combination of previously used parts to make a "new" figure. And why not? Tamashii has essentially released most of these pieces already! Personally, I love Goku's GT outfit outside of his pink wristbands. I'd love to add this figure to my collection. This is actually a great way of using the previous parts to create a new incarnation of Goku without looking too much like a cash-grab like Ultimate Gohan.
Head: Regular Goku Torso: SSGSS Goku Arms: Every Goku ever but the shoulder sleeves are SSGSS Goku Gi Wasitpiece: SSGSS Goku Belt: *NEW* piece, slightly remolded SSGSS Goku belt (even belt tips) Legs: Regular/Every Goku ever Ankle Wraps: *NEW* Shoes: SSJ4 Goku (not released)
GT SSJ4 Goku: Love this figure as well. Never been a fan of the colors but it is an awesome design and the figure looks great. We've seen it a few times now so I hope Tamashii eventually commits to releasing it.
SSJ3 Vegeta: I love seeing this and am disappointed at the same time. Why? Because we want Buu Saga Vegeta and this is Tamashii's way of teasing us! You can tell some of this figure is "frankenstein'ed" as well, notably the lower portion of the body and it actually looks like they used the upper part of Goku's arms? Huh? I'm actually thinking this is another "Display Only" figure like Nappa and Shenron...especially given how the figure is mostly cobbled together from other figures and they're showing off a new "lower portion" of the Saiyan Armor with the new Trunks figure. Also, SSJ3 Vegeta hasn't shown up in normal Dragon Ball stuff, only the video games and Dragon Ball Heroes. I'm skeptical if Tamashii will actually release this...
Angel Goku: This is probably a Goku figure I'm the least excited for. It's another cash-grab but cool to see. I honestly hope they don't try to push this one out.
Kid Goku: A must-buy for any Dragon Ball fan. This is another Goku figure that I definitely want and given how successful the DB line has been, it's surprising it took them so long to getting around to it. For such a small figure the articulation looks fantastic and knowing how Tamashii does, I'm sure it will be awesome. I could certainly see this figure being the next "Regular Release".
SSJ God Goku: I like him slightly better than Angel Goku and he looks fantastic as a figure representation of the character from Battle of Gods. Best thing about this figure is the new Goku head sculpt. But I hate the design, very...very lazy on Toriyama's part. So it's hard for me to be excited for the figure version of this. Definitely looks like new torso, arms and leg pieces though, doesn't it? At least his shoulders don't have that weird point on them. I'd like to see the new head sculpt used for a regular Goku...perhaps if they release this figure they'll include a "base" black hair Goku as well?
Champa/Female-Whis-whatever-her-name-is (Vados?): Figures look great! But don't really care too much for these characters just yet.
Porunga: Looks amazing but I think this is another display piece that Tamashii will never release.
Whis: Looks great! I'm sure with Beerus coming out that Whis is almost a guaranteed release. It would be ridiculous to release Beerus without Whis! That's like Tamashii releasing Scouter Vegeta without Nappa! Oh wait......
Guys - take a look at the figure placards in the photos. A lot of the newer figures have the typical "Display Only" line which draws back to the fact that Tamashii is once again displaying prototypes of figures that they probably have little-to-no intention of releasing other than just using them as demonstration pieces as we've seen with Shenron and Nappa and even the Super Buu figures.
Honestly, there's only two figures here I actually see Tamashii being serious about and that's TRUNKS and KID GOKU. Mostly because those are totally new sculpts and why would they put so much work into that if they weren't going to release them? Coupling with the fact that there are "two" Trunks figures displayed and Kid Goku has his own diorama piece, I'd say those are guaranteed "coming soon" pieces. I hate to say it but I think Tamashii is playing their usual games with most of the other figures.
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Post by prodigy1367 on Oct 30, 2015 12:27:57 GMT -6
About the Display Only thing, hasn't EVERY single figure at one point been Display Only? Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that's the case. There's only really been a handful that haven't been released which are Nappa and Shenron. I still think the Buu's are merely being reworked and will see release.
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Post by Bardoon on Oct 30, 2015 12:30:36 GMT -6
True...but that also leaves Tamashii uncommitted about the figures...meaning that ALL of them could be released, NONE or SOME. I think we're falling into the SOME category here. I hate how they play games like this because it gets everyone excited.
That's why I think there's only about two...maybe three (Whis) "true" potential releases out of the whole group. OK, maybe even SSJ God Goku too. I just remembered he's mostly a new sculpt too. But everyone else I think Tamashii is going to be fuzzy on.
I hope you're right though prodigy. I'd love to see Buu released, along with SSJ4 Goku too. Tamashii has been teasing them quite a bit. They're the first toy company I've known to show SO many prototypes and complete new molds of figures and then never release them.
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Post by Fukkatsu no F on Oct 30, 2015 12:32:43 GMT -6
Yeah I just saw all of these rumors and pictures yesterday, but I doubt it is lucky for collectors if they release 50% of what they exhibited at the convention. For Angel Goku, it seems like the mixture Angel Wings effect parts they showed prototypes long time ago and normal Goku.
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Post by angelo2113 on Oct 30, 2015 12:50:20 GMT -6
Guys - take a look at the figure placards in the photos. A lot of the newer figures have the typical "Display Only" line which draws back to the fact that Tamashii is once again displaying prototypes of figures that they probably have little-to-no intention of releasing other than just using them as demonstration pieces as we've seen with Shenron and Nappa and even the Super Buu figures.
Honestly, there's only two figures here I actually see Tamashii being serious about and that's TRUNKS and KID GOKU. Mostly because those are totally new sculpts and why would they put so much work into that if they weren't going to release them? Coupling with the fact that there are "two" Trunks figures displayed and Kid Goku has his own diorama piece, I'd say those are guaranteed "coming soon" pieces. I hate to say it but I think Tamashii is playing their usual games with most of the other figures.
I noticed that as well but I disagree on Tamashii having little-to-no intention of releasing these prototypes. Vados, Champa, and Whis will be released. That goes without question since Tamashii is quite invested in the new films and "Super." All three of them could use some updates though. Super Saiyan Trunks will be released. Interesting to see if it will either be a regular release or not. Super Saiyan God Goku and Super Saiyan 4 Goku will be released. Tamashii went above and beyond for each of these. They created an entirely new sculpt for Super Saiyan God Goku and they updated the sculpt for Super Saiyan 4 Goku. I don't believe they would invest all that time and effort with no intention of releasing either of them. Kid Goku will be released after some updates done. Although your comment about multiple displays was interesting and makes me feel it's very close to release. Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta was used to see if there's any interest in those types of releases. I feel they were successful. A lot of people were skeptical but I've seen a lot of people change their minds and growing fond of it. I would love to see that released at some point. Angel Goku won't be released as either a regular/web exclusive. Unless it's Tamashii's idea of a SDCC Exclusive which, as we discussed before, may be the best option since it's not a highly desired variation of the character.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 13:39:52 GMT -6
GT Adult Goku: I believe this is mostly what most of us collectors call a "Frankenstein" figure. Meaning it is a combination of previously used parts to make a "new" figure. And why not? Tamashii has essentially released most of these pieces already! Personally, I love Goku's GT outfit outside of his pink wristbands. I'd love to add this figure to my collection. This is actually a great way of using the previous parts to create a new incarnation of Goku without looking too much like a cash-grab like Ultimate Gohan.
Yes, someone besides me that loves the figure! I will actually be sad if he doesn't get released because I think it looks great! angelo2113 I agree with you. There's no question that Kid Goku, SSJ4 Goku, Trunks, SSJG Goku, and Whis will be released. I think you're right about Champa and Vados but they might want to wait to see fan reaction to the characters before going all gung-ho with them for now. They didn't show Jaco, so that may have indicated that fans weren't that interested. People here say he's a great character though (I haven't read the manga)! I don't think Angel Goku will get released; I think they were trying to make a quick way to make the Goku shrine look more symmetrical. I think it looks sweet for the display!
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Post by Bardoon on Oct 30, 2015 14:00:53 GMT -6
Yeah @baneofdemon22 I LOVE Goku's GT outfit. I think it's a perfect transition from his blue and orange outfits in Dragon Ball, to the iconic orange gi of DBZ and then to this "merger" of the two for GT. You can see right in your photo how it takes a bit of both. A dream come true would be if they toss in a Super Saiyan head with the release (if they do release him)...I actually wish they would repaint the SSGSS Goku hair to yellow and toss that in with the figure!
I still wonder where the pink wristbands came from but oh well!
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Post by angelo2113 on Oct 30, 2015 14:11:00 GMT -6
GT Adult Goku: I believe this is mostly what most of us collectors call a "Frankenstein" figure. Meaning it is a combination of previously used parts to make a "new" figure. And why not? Tamashii has essentially released most of these pieces already! Personally, I love Goku's GT outfit outside of his pink wristbands. I'd love to add this figure to my collection. This is actually a great way of using the previous parts to create a new incarnation of Goku without looking too much like a cash-grab like Ultimate Gohan.
Yes, someone besides me that loves the figure! I will actually be sad if he doesn't get released because I think it looks great! angelo2113 I agree with you. There's no question that Kid Goku, SSJ4 Goku, Trunks, SSJG Goku, and Whis will be released. I think you're right about Champa and Vados but they might want to wait to see fan reaction to the characters before going all gung-ho with them for now. They didn't show Jaco, so that may have indicated that fans weren't that interested. People here say he's a great character though (I haven't read the manga)! I don't think Angel Goku will get released; I think they were trying to make a quick way to make the Goku shrine look more symmetrical. I think it looks sweet for the display! GT Adult Goku looked great. I'm hopeful that he'll get released specifically because, as Bardoon mentioned, it's a combination of used parts to make a new figure and it's Goku. It's an easy sell for Tamashii and, at some point, it will add another Goku release in their product line up. That's true. They may be early prototypes just to show the fans that they are willing to release new characters from Super if we're willing to purchase them. I think Jaco, along with the Buus, are being geared up for release/announcement soon. I don't know why I think that. I just find it odd that they're not at the showing along with Premium Colors Super Saiyan Vegeta and Future Trunks. I don't care about Jaco, personally. I'm not interested in reading his Manga or seeing more of him. I would gladly pass on his release and I never thought I would say that about a Dragon Ball character. Yeah, the display is absolutely stunning. I'm tempted to display a shelf of all Goku now.
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Post by Bardoon on Oct 30, 2015 14:14:01 GMT -6
It is kind of odd that they're not showing off their upcoming other releases besides Warrior Awakening Goku.
But if you follow the photos from around the event, a lot of the other series (Star Wars, Avengers, Kamen Rider, etc.) are not showing off much of their upcoming release either...mostly brand new stuff.
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Post by kanji on Oct 30, 2015 14:58:02 GMT -6
Had time to look at all the pictures, and it is a little disappointing we've seen so many Goku's and little else.
I guess I can understand SSG Goku. I'm actually quite surprised we didn't get him sooner. His appearance in this form was relatively short-lived, but he would be good to have displayed with Beerus.
The rest of the Goku's are pretty much meh imho. The wings are just an accessory, the Kid Goku doesn't fit with anything we've had previously, and the GT stuff is just ugh!
The new Trunks is the clear stand out piece for me. Although it is essentially just a new head sculpt on SSJ Vegeta's body. It's still great though, he's a no brainer and will look great with SSJ Vegeta and Cell.
Porunga and SSJ3 Vegeta are both just wtf and I don't think will see a release. Of course as I said before, it's one step closer to a Majin Vegeta, which would have been preferable, but it's clear Tamashii have no time for the Buu Saga.
Whis is probably the only other figure after Trunks that i'm genuinely excited for. Him and SSG Goku pretty much conclude BoG arc. Having his sis and Beerus's bro is a nice addition, but like many have said before, it may be a bit early for them. Of course by the time they are released they may have made their anime appearance.
So all in all, only 3 figures that I'd actually consider getting off the bat. Nappa and Buu would have been much better! Now we have to wait 49 days for the next reveals at Jump Festa.
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Post by gotenks on Oct 30, 2015 15:03:51 GMT -6
Had time to look at all the pictures, and it is a little disappointing we've seen so many Goku's and little else. I guess I can understand SSG Goku. I'm actually quite surprised we didn't get him sooner. His appearance in this form was relatively short-lived, but he would be good to have displayed with Beerus. The rest of the Goku's are pretty much meh imho. The wings are just an accessory, the Kid Goku doesn't fit with anything we've had previously, and the GT stuff is just ugh! The new Trunks is the clear stand out piece for me. Although it is essentially just a new head sculpt on SSJ Vegeta's body. It's still great though, he's a no brainer and will look great with SSJ Vegeta and Cell.Porunga and SSJ3 Vegeta are both just wtf and I don't think will see a release. Of course as I said before, it's one step closer to a Majin Vegeta, which would have been preferable, but it's clear Tamashii have no time for the Buu Saga. Whis is probably the only other figure after Trunks that i'm genuinely excited for. Him and SSG Goku pretty much conclude BoG arc. Having his sis and Beerus's bro is a nice addition, but like many have said before, it may be a bit early for them. Of course by the time they are released they may have made their anime appearance. So all in all, only 3 figures that I'd actually consider getting off the bat. Nappa and Buu would have been much better! Now we have to wait 49 days for the next reveals at Jump Festa. Trunks is a BRAND NEW sculpt. it's not the Vegeta body.
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Post by Ketchup on Oct 30, 2015 15:46:59 GMT -6
I'm sorry, I only skimmed through, so I don't know if this was already talked about, but does anyone know where Jaco is?
They showed a prototype of him a couple months ago, and I'm not seeing him. To be honest, that was one of the ones I was interested in because it's so unusual.
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Post by draxidean on Oct 30, 2015 16:15:17 GMT -6
I'm sorry, I only skimmed through, so I don't know if this was already talked about, but does anyone know where Jaco is? They showed a prototype of him a couple months ago, and I'm not seeing him. To be honest, that was one of the ones I was interested in because it's so unusual. Unfortunately no Jaco... But hey it could mean they are waiting to see how good he do in the anime before making him available so lets keep the hopes up
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Post by wiizardii01 on Oct 30, 2015 16:49:49 GMT -6
Jaco release date: 20983393
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Post by prodigy1367 on Oct 30, 2015 16:56:28 GMT -6
Guys - take a look at the figure placards in the photos. A lot of the newer figures have the typical "Display Only" line which draws back to the fact that Tamashii is once again displaying prototypes of figures that they probably have little-to-no intention of releasing other than just using them as demonstration pieces as we've seen with Shenron and Nappa and even the Super Buu figures.
Honestly, there's only two figures here I actually see Tamashii being serious about and that's TRUNKS and KID GOKU. Mostly because those are totally new sculpts and why would they put so much work into that if they weren't going to release them? Coupling with the fact that there are "two" Trunks figures displayed and Kid Goku has his own diorama piece, I'd say those are guaranteed "coming soon" pieces. I hate to say it but I think Tamashii is playing their usual games with most of the other figures.
I noticed that as well but I disagree on Tamashii having little-to-no intention of releasing these prototypes. Vados, Champa, and Whis will be released. That goes without question since Tamashii is quite invested in the new films and "Super." All three of them could use some updates though. Super Saiyan Trunks will be released. Interesting to see if it will either be a regular release or not. Super Saiyan God Goku and Super Saiyan 4 Goku will be released. Tamashii went above and beyond for each of these. They created an entirely new sculpt for Super Saiyan God Goku and they updated the sculpt for Super Saiyan 4 Goku. I don't believe they would invest all that time and effort with no intention of releasing either of them. Kid Goku will be released after some updates done. Although your comment about multiple displays was interesting and makes me feel it's very close to release. Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta was used to see if there's any interest in those types of releases. I feel they were successful. A lot of people were skeptical but I've seen a lot of people change their minds and growing fond of it. I would love to see that released at some point. Angel Goku won't be released as either a regular/web exclusive. Unless it's Tamashii's idea of a SDCC Exclusive which, as we discussed before, may be the best option since it's not a highly desired variation of the character. I agree with pretty much everything you said. I'm just gonna add a few things. Tamashii doesn't create figures just to display them and not release. It costs money to make each and every prototype and they display with intent to gauge interest and ultimately sell. The ONLY figures that they've shown and haven't given a definitive update on is Nappa and Shenron. Here's why. Nappa was revealed long ago but wasn't very well done because they were still trying to figure out how to articulate large characters. Plus he was nude so the joints were very obvious and fans didn't react too well to him. They then decided to put him on the back burner. During this time they figured out how to fix the mistakes made with Nappa. A short while later, the first large character, Broly, appeared. After sales for Broly exceeded their expectations they probably continued to work on Nappa, most likely with armor. They know the demand is there and they even acknowledged it. He WILL get released, eventually. Key word is eventually. When it comes to Shenron, he's obviously a very large character so the price is gonna be higher. That one is obvious why they don't want to put into production. It's the riskiest prototype they've made. Now for the Buu's. SSJ4 was gone for a while because they took him back to update him with new knee joints and add the finishing touches. Now we see him ready to go. The Buu's are experiencing the same absence. They had the same old knees frtm before and now Tamashii is adding the new joints and finishing them up. We'll probably see them late this year or early next year, ready to go. In summary, Tamashii has released 95% of what they've shown. That other 5% is Nappa and Shenron. Btw, not actual statistics, just painting a picture. The only updated of those two is Shenron in that he was last seen at the same event the Buu's were. Still even though he was shown, I don't think he'll get a release, at least not now. Same goes for Porunga. So it's only been 2 figures that they haven't released (4 if anyone really thinks they simply scrapped the Buu's). Obviously this doesn't count the new stuff. Out of the new stuff, the only one I think they won't release is Angel Goku. Even that one is still gonna get released. Oh and I didn't forget about Jaco. He's coming soon, but he isn't that big of a character so they don't really wanna display him just yet is my guess. Also the reaction wasn't exactly great, but they do have him, he does fit in with DBS, and he will get released.
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