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Post by Chibi_Gohan on Jul 27, 2015 20:41:10 GMT -6
I still can't get on board with the SSGSS Goku... It just looks off. Vegeta looks good though.
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Post by Gonstead on Jul 27, 2015 23:58:49 GMT -6
I still can't get on board with the SSGSS Goku... It just looks off. Vegeta looks good though. It's pretty much just his End of Z / GT clothes, just in his more traditional color-scheme. Makes sense they would be wearing new clothes when being taught by a new teacher. |
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Post by thinkcure54 on Jul 28, 2015 3:14:05 GMT -6
Gonstead speaking of end of Z clothes, we need a vegeta buu saga figuart asap haha
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Post by drowningrabbit on Jul 28, 2015 14:37:55 GMT -6
I chose to move my reply from the Frieza thread where it had no business being, to the upcoming releases thread. While it's not an upcoming release I'm discussing, it's about the upcoming releases, if we should spin this off into it's own thread, cool, but I just figured it's a slow news week anyway: It's crazy how these figures jump up in price. In November of last year I got Cell for $90 and Frieza for $100. In 9 months they pretty much doubled. Wow. The line is still growing quite a bit, however now a days anyone that is getting in on the line is buying up 3-4 figures of any release they can get their hands on, trying to sit on them to sell at a later date. I'm curious where the saturation point will be. How long can this market last? You have to take into account that the market for these figures is still booming currently, so the wave is likely to last for a bit more at least. Kai started getting people back into the series, followed quickly by Battle of Gods getting a theatrical release and seeing more of a wide appeal. Ressurection F and Dragon Ball Super is getting all of those people who are excited for the series to get even more into everything Dragon Ball, fueling the fire even more. Hell even the TCG is seeing a revival from Panini! The amount of figures coming out exploding in the latter half of this year and into the next. It's going to get more and more difficult to even afford getting 3-4 of a figure, let alone find them. There is also the wild card of Tamashii now producing "Advanced Ver." figures that are effective re-issues for people that missed them. There are a lot of people who won't want to double dip on figures that are identical outside of a slight paint variation. Especially with the new Advanced Versions coming with extra accessories ( Vegeta has been confirmed to come with Galick Gun hands in the new version ). With the advent of the Awakening Goku being a regular release, Tamashii may be doing away with the Exclusive moniker for more figures as well. I would venture that it will only be taken off for truly unique versions of characters though, as they are logically more likely to sell. With the "Exclusive" moniker saved for those figures like Vegito and such, that while popular, aren't nearly as much of a draw as the Awakened Warrior Goku. Right now may be the heyday for the line, meaning prices are likely to continue to stay high and go higher on any new release for a bit. Although, what we can't be sure of until later is one question, is this the peak? Have we hit the top of the chart for resellers shilling their old figures for $300+? I would not be surprised if we see the more expensive figures start to dip back below the $300 mark at least, if not even drop below $200. The threat of re-issue is already being seen dropping prices for Trunks/SSj Vegeta and their new Advanced Ver.'s aren't even out yet! (Ok, sorry for the wall of text, but I've been reading/rewriting this post for at least a half an hour, sorry for any typos and bad grammar which I'm sure got to sneak in.) |
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Post by littlegreen on Jul 28, 2015 14:47:34 GMT -6
I chose to move my reply from the Frieza thread where it had no business being, to the upcoming releases thread. While it's not an upcoming release I'm discussing, it's about the upcoming releases, if we should spin this off into it's own thread, cool, but I just figured it's a slow news week anyway: It's crazy how these figures jump up in price. In November of last year I got Cell for $90 and Frieza for $100. In 9 months they pretty much doubled. Wow. The line is still growing quite a bit, however now a days anyone that is getting in on the line is buying up 3-4 figures of any release they can get their hands on, trying to sit on them to sell at a later date. I'm curious where the saturation point will be. How long can this market last? You have to take into account that the market for these figures is still booming currently, so the wave is likely to last for a bit more at least. Kai started getting people back into the series, followed quickly by Battle of Gods getting a theatrical release and seeing more of a wide appeal. Ressurection F and Dragon Ball Super is getting all of those people who are excited for the series to get even more into everything Dragon Ball, fueling the fire even more. Hell even the TCG is seeing a revival from Panini! The amount of figures coming out exploding in the latter half of this year and into the next. It's going to get more and more difficult to even afford getting 3-4 of a figure, let alone find them. There is also the wild card of Tamashii now producing "Advanced Ver." figures that are effective re-issues for people that missed them. There are a lot of people who won't want to double dip on figures that are identical outside of a slight paint variation. Especially with the new Advanced Versions coming with extra accessories ( Vegeta has been confirmed to come with Galick Gun hands in the new version ). With the advent of the Awakening Goku being a regular release, Tamashii may be doing away with the Exclusive moniker for more figures as well. I would venture that it will only be taken off for truly unique versions of characters though, as they are logically more likely to sell. With the "Exclusive" moniker saved for those figures like Vegito and such, that while popular, aren't nearly as much of a draw as the Awakened Warrior Goku. Right now may be the heyday for the line, meaning prices are likely to continue to stay high and go higher on any new release for a bit. Although, what we can't be sure of until later is one question, is this the peak? Have we hit the top of the chart for resellers shilling their old figures for $300+? I would not be surprised if we see the more expensive figures start to dip back below the $300 mark at least, if not even drop below $200. The threat of re-issue is already being seen dropping prices for Trunks/SSj Vegeta and their new Advanced Ver.'s aren't even out yet! (Ok, sorry for the wall of text, but I've been reading/rewriting this post for at least a half an hour, sorry for any typos and bad grammar which I'm sure got to sneak in.) That is what you call a quality post right there! I agree with just about everything you said. At some point, people won't be getting multiples of every figure. Actually we may already be at that point. I already know the only multiples I'm getting are 2 of Vegeta and 2 of Trunks and that's about it. Maybe 2 Warrior Awakening Gokus, but that's it. With the new boom of releases I don't think people will be getting as many to resell either. |
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Post by brandan on Jul 28, 2015 15:02:49 GMT -6
I typically pick up 3 of each one for a friend and the others to display or mod in some way.i agree most will keep it in that general area i don't think to many will be taking out loans to buy 50 plus figures anymore.
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Post by lexiyrock on Jul 28, 2015 15:10:00 GMT -6
I chose to move my reply from the Frieza thread where it had no business being, to the upcoming releases thread. While it's not an upcoming release I'm discussing, it's about the upcoming releases, if we should spin this off into it's own thread, cool, but I just figured it's a slow news week anyway: The line is still growing quite a bit, however now a days anyone that is getting in on the line is buying up 3-4 figures of any release they can get their hands on, trying to sit on them to sell at a later date. I'm curious where the saturation point will be. How long can this market last? You have to take into account that the market for these figures is still booming currently, so the wave is likely to last for a bit more at least. Kai started getting people back into the series, followed quickly by Battle of Gods getting a theatrical release and seeing more of a wide appeal. Ressurection F and Dragon Ball Super is getting all of those people who are excited for the series to get even more into everything Dragon Ball, fueling the fire even more. Hell even the TCG is seeing a revival from Panini! The amount of figures coming out exploding in the latter half of this year and into the next. It's going to get more and more difficult to even afford getting 3-4 of a figure, let alone find them. There is also the wild card of Tamashii now producing "Advanced Ver." figures that are effective re-issues for people that missed them. There are a lot of people who won't want to double dip on figures that are identical outside of a slight paint variation. Especially with the new Advanced Versions coming with extra accessories ( Vegeta has been confirmed to come with Galick Gun hands in the new version ). With the advent of the Awakening Goku being a regular release, Tamashii may be doing away with the Exclusive moniker for more figures as well. I would venture that it will only be taken off for truly unique versions of characters though, as they are logically more likely to sell. With the "Exclusive" moniker saved for those figures like Vegito and such, that while popular, aren't nearly as much of a draw as the Awakened Warrior Goku. Right now may be the heyday for the line, meaning prices are likely to continue to stay high and go higher on any new release for a bit. Although, what we can't be sure of until later is one question, is this the peak? Have we hit the top of the chart for resellers shilling their old figures for $300+? I would not be surprised if we see the more expensive figures start to dip back below the $300 mark at least, if not even drop below $200. The threat of re-issue is already being seen dropping prices for Trunks/SSj Vegeta and their new Advanced Ver.'s aren't even out yet! (Ok, sorry for the wall of text, but I've been reading/rewriting this post for at least a half an hour, sorry for any typos and bad grammar which I'm sure got to sneak in.) That is what you call a quality post right there! I agree with just about everything you said. At some point, people won't be getting multiples of every figure. Actually we may already be at that point. I already know the only multiples I'm getting are 2 of Vegeta and 2 of Trunks and that's about it. Maybe 2 Warrior Awakening Gokus, but that's it. With the new boom of releases I don't think people will be getting as many to resell either. Market saturation is highly unlikely with these figures for the simple fact that Bandai is making them Tamashii exclusives. Yes Bluefin import them here but they still get a limited number. Let's look at it this way: There are at least 50,000 Dragonball fans in the U.S (at lowest lowest minimum) from them most find S.H Figuarts appealing and will want to get them at some point. For as long as Bluefin brings them, they will sell and for as long as Bandai makes them Tamashii exclusive, they will not saturate the market. The point of realization is when collectors truly see the figures for what they are and what they're worth. It is only collectors who can determine the market really. I've seen people lowering their prices because of stock sitting or because they need cash and no one is buying. It happens even with Hot Toys figures. The Re-issues are hit and miss. For as long as collectors want the piece, they are faced with the choice of getting them now and risk a re-issue or getting them later and pay much higher because there was no re-issue. Most collectors succumb to getting it now for fear of rising market value. Re-issuing Tamashii exclusives is almost not seen in Japan. In fact, we can't call them re-issues because it is a different version such as different color. Tamashii does not re-issue their exclusives and one way or the other, while they're available in the US via Bluefin and other retailers, they are still exclusives in the Japanese market to the Japanese people and they like their stuff to be the way it is thus re-issues are not seen more than 25% if talking about the exact same figure. Let's take a look at Gohan and SDCC Gohan. Some people like and want both because while same figure, they are different "versions" or "colors". You can call it Anime vs Manga. The new Advanced Color might not have that much of a difference such as Anime Vs Manga but at least it provides new packaging, new coloring and accessories. That by itself is enough to some people consider getting both versions. Awakening Goku is not exclusive because it has incredible appeal to the masses. It is a sold out seller for sure. But most Figuarts from lines such as Dragonball, Sailor Moon, Ranma and figures such as Saint Seiya Myth Cloth (not Myth Cloth EX) will see most of their production as Tamashii exclusives. This has been a trend for years and Bandai rarely changes their business practices. Japanese people value exclusivity a lot. This market will last for as long as Dragonball is alive and people love the figures. Or the next best thing comes. If Bandai releases a much higher quality Dragonball figure line with many more improvements, people might drift away from S.H Figuarts. But until then, the Figuarts market will continue and the demand with it. |
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Post by drowningrabbit on Jul 28, 2015 16:41:05 GMT -6
Market saturation is highly unlikely with these figures for the simple fact that Bandai is making them Tamashii exclusives. Yes Bluefin import them here but they still get a limited number. Let's look at it this way: There are at least 50,000 Dragonball fans in the U.S (at lowest lowest minimum) from them most find S.H Figuarts appealing and will want to get them at some point. For as long as Bluefin brings them, they will sell and for as long as Bandai makes them Tamashii exclusive, they will not saturate the market. The point of realization is when collectors truly see the figures for what they are and what they're worth. It is only collectors who can determine the market really. I've seen people lowering their prices because of stock sitting or because they need cash and no one is buying. It happens even with Hot Toys figures. The Re-issues are hit and miss. For as long as collectors want the piece, they are faced with the choice of getting them now and risk a re-issue or getting them later and pay much higher because there was no re-issue. Most collectors succumb to getting it now for fear of rising market value. Re-issuing Tamashii exclusives is almost not seen in Japan. In fact, we can't call them re-issues because it is a different version such as different color. Tamashii does not re-issue their exclusives and one way or the other, while they're available in the US via Bluefin and other retailers, they are still exclusives in the Japanese market to the Japanese people and they like their stuff to be the way it is thus re-issues are not seen more than 25% if talking about the exact same figure. Let's take a look at Gohan and SDCC Gohan. Some people like and want both because while same figure, they are different "versions" or "colors". You can call it Anime vs Manga. The new Advanced Color might not have that much of a difference such as Anime Vs Manga but at least it provides new packaging, new coloring and accessories. That by itself is enough to some people consider getting both versions. Awakening Goku is not exclusive because it has incredible appeal to the masses. It is a sold out seller for sure. But most Figuarts from lines such as Dragonball, Sailor Moon, Ranma and figures such as Saint Seiya Myth Cloth (not Myth Cloth EX) will see most of their production as Tamashii exclusives. This has been a trend for years and Bandai rarely changes their business practices. Japanese people value exclusivity a lot. This market will last for as long as Dragonball is alive and people love the figures. Or the next best thing comes. If Bandai releases a much higher quality Dragonball figure line with many more improvements, people might drift away from S.H Figuarts. But until then, the Figuarts market will continue and the demand with it. While I agree with most of your points, there are a few semantic differences. Advanced Ver. is not a straight 1:1 re-issue, and I don't want to have this argument yet again. They are "Effective" ( Yes that word was, and is there for a reason, stop ignoring it ) re-releases. For SOME collectors, they will shy away from them, because they have the version they consider superior. While others will look at it as a cheap alternative to get effectively the same figure. The comparison of Anime Vs. Manga versions of Gohan isn't really a 1:1 correlation either, as they are completely different coloring of the figure. It's a stark contrast and even someone without knowledge of the line can look at them and say they are completely differently painted. As for the SSJ Vegeta/Trunks, it's more subtle. For some people, the minority, the color of the box is a thing, but unfortunately for the vast majority, it's not a deciding factor. Those Mexico Namek Goku's tanked from the $1k price tag down to around $300 pretty quick! Regardless, this isn't a semantic discussion, we know that the Advanced Versions are tanking prices, it's a known effect, it's already happening and the figures have only been announced. Will most figures remain branded as "Exclusive"? Yes? That's what I was saying. I would venture that they don't want another SSj Vegeta/Trunks on their hands either though. They may start selling more regular releases of newer figures to have more of a 'stock' of figures they can re-release. People will still buy up extras of "Regular" releases, as we're already seeing Awakening Goku sell out. Hell before they announced Kid Gohan's recent re-release he was commanding a good sum of money. Unfortunately though, we've already seen quite a few manufacturers come and go from the Dragon Ball line. We have the entire American forum discussing figures that are no longer in production by companies that were still making them during Dragon Balls fandom. It never died, but it did swell and contract. We're currently in the swelling of the franchise again. There is a lot of new media for the series, after a very long drought. |
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Post by lexiyrock on Jul 28, 2015 18:14:15 GMT -6
Market saturation is highly unlikely with these figures for the simple fact that Bandai is making them Tamashii exclusives. Yes Bluefin import them here but they still get a limited number. Let's look at it this way: There are at least 50,000 Dragonball fans in the U.S (at lowest lowest minimum) from them most find S.H Figuarts appealing and will want to get them at some point. For as long as Bluefin brings them, they will sell and for as long as Bandai makes them Tamashii exclusive, they will not saturate the market. The point of realization is when collectors truly see the figures for what they are and what they're worth. It is only collectors who can determine the market really. I've seen people lowering their prices because of stock sitting or because they need cash and no one is buying. It happens even with Hot Toys figures. The Re-issues are hit and miss. For as long as collectors want the piece, they are faced with the choice of getting them now and risk a re-issue or getting them later and pay much higher because there was no re-issue. Most collectors succumb to getting it now for fear of rising market value. Re-issuing Tamashii exclusives is almost not seen in Japan. In fact, we can't call them re-issues because it is a different version such as different color. Tamashii does not re-issue their exclusives and one way or the other, while they're available in the US via Bluefin and other retailers, they are still exclusives in the Japanese market to the Japanese people and they like their stuff to be the way it is thus re-issues are not seen more than 25% if talking about the exact same figure. Let's take a look at Gohan and SDCC Gohan. Some people like and want both because while same figure, they are different "versions" or "colors". You can call it Anime vs Manga. The new Advanced Color might not have that much of a difference such as Anime Vs Manga but at least it provides new packaging, new coloring and accessories. That by itself is enough to some people consider getting both versions. Awakening Goku is not exclusive because it has incredible appeal to the masses. It is a sold out seller for sure. But most Figuarts from lines such as Dragonball, Sailor Moon, Ranma and figures such as Saint Seiya Myth Cloth (not Myth Cloth EX) will see most of their production as Tamashii exclusives. This has been a trend for years and Bandai rarely changes their business practices. Japanese people value exclusivity a lot. This market will last for as long as Dragonball is alive and people love the figures. Or the next best thing comes. If Bandai releases a much higher quality Dragonball figure line with many more improvements, people might drift away from S.H Figuarts. But until then, the Figuarts market will continue and the demand with it. While I agree with most of your points, there are a few semantic differences. Advanced Ver. is not a straight 1:1 re-issue, and I don't want to have this argument yet again. They are "Effective" ( Yes that word was, and is there for a reason, stop ignoring it ) re-releases. For SOME collectors, they will shy away from them, because they have the version they consider superior. While others will look at it as a cheap alternative to get effectively the same figure. The comparison of Anime Vs. Manga versions of Gohan isn't really a 1:1 correlation either, as they are completely different coloring of the figure. It's a stark contrast and even someone without knowledge of the line can look at them and say they are completely differently painted. As for the SSJ Vegeta/Trunks, it's more subtle. For some people, the minority, the color of the box is a thing, but unfortunately for the vast majority, it's not a deciding factor. Those Mexico Namek Goku's tanked from the $1k price tag down to around $300 pretty quick! Regardless, this isn't a semantic discussion, we know that the Advanced Versions are tanking prices, it's a known effect, it's already happening and the figures have only been announced. Will most figures remain branded as "Exclusive"? Yes? That's what I was saying. I would venture that they don't want another SSj Vegeta/Trunks on their hands either though. They may start selling more regular releases of newer figures to have more of a 'stock' of figures they can re-release. People will still buy up extras of "Regular" releases, as we're already seeing Awakening Goku sell out. Hell before they announced Kid Gohan's recent re-release he was commanding a good sum of money. Unfortunately though, we've already seen quite a few manufacturers come and go from the Dragon Ball line. We have the entire American forum discussing figures that are no longer in production by companies that were still making them during Dragon Balls fandom. It never died, but it did swell and contract. We're currently in the swelling of the franchise again. There is a lot of new media for the series, after a very long drought. Well Dragonball really never died in Japan tho. While Bandai might have made few articulated figures, them and its subsidiaries like Banpresto, Megahouse, Plex etc continued to do DB figures. So they have been constant since before, during and after the american manufacturers "contracted" like you say. Actually, I looked at both SDCC and regular Piccolo and Gohan and to be honest, they ARE the same figure. The complete coloring as you say isn't even there. It is just like the advanced color. You get a grey pant vs a dark grey with Trunks. Same happened with Gohan having darker Purple vs Ligther Purple. so in theory these new advanced colors are very much like the Manga Vs Anime coloring exclusives for Gohan and Piccolo. Just like SDCC SSJ Goku and SSJ Goku, the case it is basically the same as the advanced color situation. The only difference is that SDCC SSJ Goku was only available in the U.S market as far as I know. |
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Post by prodigy1367 on Jul 28, 2015 18:38:08 GMT -6
While I agree with most of your points, there are a few semantic differences. Advanced Ver. is not a straight 1:1 re-issue, and I don't want to have this argument yet again. They are "Effective" ( Yes that word was, and is there for a reason, stop ignoring it ) re-releases. For SOME collectors, they will shy away from them, because they have the version they consider superior. While others will look at it as a cheap alternative to get effectively the same figure. The comparison of Anime Vs. Manga versions of Gohan isn't really a 1:1 correlation either, as they are completely different coloring of the figure. It's a stark contrast and even someone without knowledge of the line can look at them and say they are completely differently painted. As for the SSJ Vegeta/Trunks, it's more subtle. For some people, the minority, the color of the box is a thing, but unfortunately for the vast majority, it's not a deciding factor. Those Mexico Namek Goku's tanked from the $1k price tag down to around $300 pretty quick! Regardless, this isn't a semantic discussion, we know that the Advanced Versions are tanking prices, it's a known effect, it's already happening and the figures have only been announced. Will most figures remain branded as "Exclusive"? Yes? That's what I was saying. I would venture that they don't want another SSj Vegeta/Trunks on their hands either though. They may start selling more regular releases of newer figures to have more of a 'stock' of figures they can re-release. People will still buy up extras of "Regular" releases, as we're already seeing Awakening Goku sell out. Hell before they announced Kid Gohan's recent re-release he was commanding a good sum of money. Unfortunately though, we've already seen quite a few manufacturers come and go from the Dragon Ball line. We have the entire American forum discussing figures that are no longer in production by companies that were still making them during Dragon Balls fandom. It never died, but it did swell and contract. We're currently in the swelling of the franchise again. There is a lot of new media for the series, after a very long drought. Well Dragonball really never died in Japan tho. While Bandai might have made few articulated figures, them and its subsidiaries like Banpresto, Megahouse, Plex etc continued to do DB figures. So they have been constant since before, during and after the american manufacturers "contracted" like you say. Actually, I looked at both SDCC and regular Piccolo and Gohan and to be honest, they ARE the same figure. The complete coloring as you say isn't even there. It is just like the advanced color. You get a grey pant vs a dark grey with Trunks. Same happened with Gohan having darker Purple vs Ligther Purple. so in theory these new advanced colors are very much like the Manga Vs Anime coloring exclusives for Gohan and Piccolo. Just like SDCC SSJ Goku and SSJ Goku, the case it is basically the same as the advanced color situation. The only difference is that SDCC SSJ Goku was only available in the U.S market as far as I know. Sorry, but there is a BIG difference between the anime repaints and the manga repaints. While they are the same mod, they're strikingly different colors representing different medias and they are marketed as so. I for one loathe the manga coloring and don't collect them no matter how much cheaper they are. It's an obvious difference and a lot of people either choose to collect either one or the other. The Advanced Coloring isn't based on anything and only used as a loophole around the Web Exclusive policy. Look at how they did with the Digimon line. They did the same thing except they called it Original Designer's edition. They simply changed the coloring just enough so that they could put a fancy name on it and have it be a pseudo re-release. |
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Post by drowningrabbit on Jul 28, 2015 18:38:54 GMT -6
Well Dragonball really never died in Japan tho. While Bandai might have made few articulated figures, them and its subsidiaries like Banpresto, Megahouse, Plex etc continued to do DB figures. So they have been constant since before, during and after the american manufacturers "contracted" like you say. Actually, I looked at both SDCC and regular Piccolo and Gohan and to be honest, they ARE the same figure. The complete coloring as you say isn't even there. It is just like the advanced color. You get a grey pant vs a dark grey with Trunks. Same happened with Gohan having darker Purple vs Ligther Purple. so in theory these new advanced colors are very much like the Manga Vs Anime coloring exclusives for Gohan and Piccolo. Just like SDCC SSJ Goku and SSJ Goku, the case it is basically the same as the advanced color situation. The only difference is that SDCC SSJ Goku was only available in the U.S market as far as I know. So again, we have a semantic argument about what qualifies as a "Different figure" between the Anime Vs. Manga versions and such. I am not well versed in the popularity of Dragon Ball in the east, but I do recall reading several times that Kai found it's footing in the West, not in Japan. Along with reports of the Figuarts line dying in Japan, but finding a real foot hold when it was brought to the states. So again, I reiterate, the brand is the strongest it's been in over a decade right now. Will it get stronger than this? I kind of doubt it. Will it keep up? Only time will tell. |
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Post by brandan on Jul 28, 2015 18:56:56 GMT -6
i agree with it riding high in the west. i remember a time when i was a late teen and dbz mech being everywhere then it went dormant but recently i took my son shopping for back to school and have seen dbz sections in hot topic.not to mention a few more local comic/novelty stores with an infux of merch.not sure if its has hit a peak but it definitely has spiked in the matter of a year or so.
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Post by jacob on Jul 28, 2015 19:31:52 GMT -6
I chose to move my reply from the Frieza thread where it had no business being, to the upcoming releases thread. While it's not an upcoming release I'm discussing, it's about the upcoming releases, if we should spin this off into it's own thread, cool, but I just figured it's a slow news week anyway: It's crazy how these figures jump up in price. In November of last year I got Cell for $90 and Frieza for $100. In 9 months they pretty much doubled. Wow. The line is still growing quite a bit, however now a days anyone that is getting in on the line is buying up 3-4 figures of any release they can get their hands on, trying to sit on them to sell at a later date. I'm curious where the saturation point will be. How long can this market last? You have to take into account that the market for these figures is still booming currently, so the wave is likely to last for a bit more at least. Kai started getting people back into the series, followed quickly by Battle of Gods getting a theatrical release and seeing more of a wide appeal. Ressurection F and Dragon Ball Super is getting all of those people who are excited for the series to get even more into everything Dragon Ball, fueling the fire even more. Hell even the TCG is seeing a revival from Panini! The amount of figures coming out exploding in the latter half of this year and into the next. It's going to get more and more difficult to even afford getting 3-4 of a figure, let alone find them. There is also the wild card of Tamashii now producing "Advanced Ver." figures that are effective re-issues for people that missed them. There are a lot of people who won't want to double dip on figures that are identical outside of a slight paint variation. Especially with the new Advanced Versions coming with extra accessories ( Vegeta has been confirmed to come with Galick Gun hands in the new version ). With the advent of the Awakening Goku being a regular release, Tamashii may be doing away with the Exclusive moniker for more figures as well. I would venture that it will only be taken off for truly unique versions of characters though, as they are logically more likely to sell. With the "Exclusive" moniker saved for those figures like Vegito and such, that while popular, aren't nearly as much of a draw as the Awakened Warrior Goku. Right now may be the heyday for the line, meaning prices are likely to continue to stay high and go higher on any new release for a bit. Although, what we can't be sure of until later is one question, is this the peak? Have we hit the top of the chart for resellers shilling their old figures for $300+? I would not be surprised if we see the more expensive figures start to dip back below the $300 mark at least, if not even drop below $200. The threat of re-issue is already being seen dropping prices for Trunks/SSj Vegeta and their new Advanced Ver.'s aren't even out yet! (Ok, sorry for the wall of text, but I've been reading/rewriting this post for at least a half an hour, sorry for any typos and bad grammar which I'm sure got to sneak in.) There's gonna be a market until no proft is to be made by scalpers. It's microecon. There will be a crap ton of scalpers until there's absolutely nothing to be made on scalping. As long as figuarts remain a niche market, expect high prices. I believe that the bubble will burst when we see sh figuarts being sold @ more retail stores or when bandai produces thousands upon thousannds of figures. |
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Post by Bardoon on Jul 28, 2015 19:53:25 GMT -6
SSJ Awakening Goku is a unique experiment and a big deal for Bandai-Tamashii's Dragon Ball line.
Undoubtedly, it's going sell very, very well. This is one of those figures that even "casual" fans will pick up because it's iconic. Anyone who knows anything about Dragon Ball knows this "look".
However, what matters the most to Bandai is how well it sells in brick & mortar Japanese stores. That will indicate whether we see more Dragon Ball Figuarts regular releases in the future.
I think that with SSJ Awakening Goku sales, if they satisfy Bandai, we will see them be quite selective with which figures they choose to deem as a "regular release". I could see Majin Vegeta as a regular release, or even a "Premium Color" Base Goku repaint, or possibly even the SSJ4 Goku. However, I don't think you'll see the secondary characters or certain villains be slapped as regular releases. This line will continually be primarily web exclusive with the occasional regular release dependent on the character selection, who will undoubtedly be a popular one.
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Post by BrolyLSSJ01 on Jul 28, 2015 20:02:49 GMT -6
Can someone explain why majority of the DBZ Figuarts are Web Exclusives? Only Manga Goku, Piccolo, and Gohan (along with Awakening Goku now) are not Web Exclusives. Why is this? I'm sorta new to this line, and I only got SS manga Goku, SDCC Gohan and Scouter Vegeta.
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