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Post by Branjita on Oct 16, 2013 10:38:49 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 4:57:34 GMT -6
Saying you should get Krillin to make a point to the manufacturer is a very idiotic claim, unless you want the figure you shouldn't get it.
I think that a lot of what PwnStar511 posted, while it is interesting to get some insights about the characters selection and future releases of the line, and i do appreciate his afforts, it might be misinformed. it is not coming directly from the inner circles of Bandai. i think that we shouldn't really put so much weight on it just yet.
I still hoping to see more of the Saiyan saga characters in the next reveal of prototypes, with how things are standing at the moment with the figuarts line, i'm really not interested at all in collecting the line. this is very disappointing to me to see such amazing figures, but they focus on more popular characters, and not on the era of Dragonball that i particularly like. i think that the saiyan saga deserve a proper figuarts releases, it would be a great edition to the line. it is more than likely that Bandai might drift more to the direction of to Buu saga with future releases, that would be the worst for me. of course this is subjective, and everyone have different preference.
I believe that the Nappa figure will see a release in the future, i dont think there is a valid reason for it to be canceled.
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Post by Branjita on Oct 17, 2013 8:54:52 GMT -6
I agree. Sometimes I wish DBZ truly ended after Frieza saga ONLY because I wish it was easier to get characters from saiyan and namek saga, instead of how common cell and buu saga characters are.
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Post by Adrenaline on Oct 17, 2013 10:31:28 GMT -6
For those that think Kid Buu will be made because he's a "final form," you should remember that the SHF Frieza isn't his final form either. 100% Frieza and Cyborg Frieza came after him. Just saiyan. Plus as tall as Super Buu is, they won't make him taller than Cell probably and he is no where near as thick as Nappa. If they're gonna go down the Buu era route, I'd love to have an SHF Super Buu. Put Jakks' to shame.
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Post by Gohan on Oct 17, 2013 10:37:22 GMT -6
Either way I see a buu coming out next year somehow. They just have to Well it is final form frieza isn't it? Just not fully powered up? And cyborg frieza isn't a form he naturally had so I'd discard that as a final form. That's just me though.
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Post by Silrian on Oct 17, 2013 10:55:36 GMT -6
I'd rather have Super Buu too Tien, because it's the only Buu I'd buy, but I think your argument is too nitpicky. Frieza's release was his final form in terms of true shapeshifting. Everbody buffs up when they power up, that's not the transformation 'final form' refers too. Frieza Cell and Buu all go through total physical transformations, Frieza and Cell both got their last one. Cyborg Frieza isn't a form in his natural evolution so that doesn't count. All of this is just semantics, the argument here is Frieza and Cell both had their endgame state, so people would like Buu to have that as well. Hell I'd preferred, Perfect Cell, 1F Frieza and Super (middle form) Buu. DBZ is just annoying that way. I nevertheless did finally buy Frieza btw. Hope I don't regret it if they do release 1F Frieza.
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Post by Adrenaline on Oct 17, 2013 11:41:12 GMT -6
Ugh I love how people try to lecture me on Frieza's transformation abilities as if I don't know lol. I realize it's the base form of his natural final form-self. The point is that it's not his "final" form or form he last appears in while alive. You want to argue that? Then be my guest.
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Post by timone317 on Oct 17, 2013 18:05:51 GMT -6
Saying you should get Krillin to make a point to the manufacturer is a very idiotic claim, unless you want the figure you shouldn't get it. I think that a lot of what PwnStar511 posted, while it is interesting to get some insights about the characters selection and future releases of the line, and i do appreciate his afforts, it might be misinformed. it is not coming directly from the inner circles of Bandai. i think that we shouldn't really put so much weight on it just yet. I still hoping to see more of the Saiyan saga characters in the next reveal of prototypes, with how things are standing at the moment with the figuarts line, i'm really not interested at all in collecting the line. this is very disappointing to me to see such amazing figures, but they focus on more popular characters, and not on the era of Dragonball that i particularly like. i think that the saiyan saga deserve a proper figuarts releases, it would be a great edition to the line. it is more than likely that Bandai might drift more to the direction of to Buu saga with future releases, that would be the worst for me. of course this is subjective, and everyone have different preference. I believe that the Nappa figure will see a release in the future, i dont think there is a valid reason for it to be canceled. It's far from idiotic. If done properly it could be quite successful. They intend to make more saiyans as they are the hot sellers in the line. Temporarily make Krillin a hot seller and make sure Bandai is aware of the increase in Krillin sales and that there's a demand for other minor characters (mainly Tien and Yamcha) and if all goes as planned they should at the very least reveal prototypes. (hate how I have to repeat myself in every post but) If everyone bought multiple Krillins and Bandai received the wrong message and made an SDCC Krillin then that would be bad but it's like I said, if we gather enough people to make enough noise about Tien and Yamcha then something good might happen. Operative word, "might", I never said it WOULD happen. Plus given what you say later in the comment I can't see why you'd even think such an attempt would be idiotic.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 19:52:49 GMT -6
There is no perfect system to anything, but I just try do my best to live my life with no regrets. Kind of like taking polls. I don't know if it will have any impact, but I did what I could. Hopefully those that do, would have uses for more Krillins or could use the body for their Gohan figures.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 20:20:53 GMT -6
Yes timone, collectors who have no interested in the figure should waste a couple hundred of dollars out of their pocket on buying multiple krillin's, and that somehow will make Bandai release more minor characters. not to mention that this a mass produced figure with thousands or more units being made.
I'm just trying to have an honest grown-up discussion over this and not to talk nonsense, no need to be a jerk if you dont agree with me.
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Post by timone317 on Oct 17, 2013 20:56:20 GMT -6
Yep. Putting more money in Bandai's pocket for a figure that everyone is already assuming won't sell is definitely going to hurt things. Attempting to send a message to Bandai by paying for their product is complete nonsense. Good points, just like saying there's no valid reason for Nappa to be canceled...
("They're not sure they are going to release him actually because he is a very large figure that requires a lot of tooling which would drive the MSRP way too high...especially for a character that is not nearly as popular as the other saiyans.")
No valid reasons there, right? I'm not quite sure how you can read that and still think "nope, it's coming out". Showing them there's demand for minor characters and making sure they know about it could help a lot. At no point did I say "hey everybody buy five Krillins and they'll give you a free Tien it's confirmed", I'm simply throwing out a suggestion. Something can be done, I doubt anything will be done, but something can be done to increase demand for Tien and Yamcha.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2013 21:12:06 GMT -6
Again, this is a mass produced figure. nothing of that sort will have any impact on Bandai decisions whatsoever, you do realize how massive multi-Billion corporation Bandai is?
As for the Nappa figure, i dont think that the posts by PwnStar511 are an absolute conformation of all this just yet, since they are not coming from an inner source in Bandai, just from someone who was slightly associated. please refer to figures such as biolente from the monster arts line as an example, which was released recently. messuring at 35 cm, with a retail price of 240$ and a ton of extra features.
and i was not replying to you in my comment, i didn't even realize that you are the one who suggested that idea. i just read a few comment mentioning that and thought it was silly.
This is my view on things, you can agree or not. it's like your forcibly trying to throw your opinion, some people have different views and that's fine. i dont have time or energy for this argument over toys. thank you and good day.
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Post by timone317 on Oct 17, 2013 21:49:50 GMT -6
True, and some of those views are grounded in reality and some are based on belief. It isn't as if I said buying more Krillins will force them to make what the fans want BUT it should show them there is demand for figures other than saiyans if people bought from the proper sources (Amazon, Bluefin's site, etc) and if there was a way to get a clear message out (obviously aside from making purchases). Everything I've said is basic common sense. Buy a product, sustain demand for more product (or increase the demand). That isn't an opinion, that's how things work. "Saying you should get Krillin to make a point to the manufacturer is a very idiotic claim, unless you want the figure you shouldn't get it." An option as well. Really stick it to them, show them the fans mean business and don't buy anything we don't want...and then see how long it takes to get a new figure as they try to recover lost profits on everything the fans didn't buy.
Even with that said, as much as I'd like to see it, I still acknowledge that people will refuse to buy Krillin even if it will increase the chances for others. As for Nappa...Idk, for some reason I have lot more confidence in someone "slightly associated" with Tamashii Nations when it comes to this stuff.
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 17, 2013 23:59:33 GMT -6
Ugh I love how people try to lecture me on Frieza's transformation abilities as if I don't know lol. I realize it's the base form of his natural final form-self. The point is that it's not his "final" form or form he last appears in while alive. You want to argue that? Then be my guest. The form they released was Frieza's final form, in both name and evolutionary status. Seeing as Frieza himself states upon transforming that it is his "final" evolution. Subsequently Frieza's 100% "form" is not in fact a separate evolution - despite what Bandai's videogames would have us believe. Think of it as Frieza withholding his maximum strength, not a transformation. This is of course assuming Frieza didn't know of the transformation beyond this evolution, which was revealed by Cooler in the Cooler's Revenge. However, if you want to argue further this isn't technically canon, seeing as it is not part of the original manga. Cyborg Frieza is not a form, he is still in his "final" form - despite having cybernetic augmentation, in order to sustain his life and mobility. It is said in the anime because of these mechanical enhancements he is able to sustain power levels far beyond the capacity of his wholly organic body. Still, not a transformation dude. If I were to chop of your hand and you had a hook attached in place of your old hand, would you say you transformed into a pirate? Some of the rubbish you guys have been blurting about not buying Krillins as it is of no consequence to future releases, is flat out dumb! If you understand business you will know that the one and only thing that influences your future/new business is SALES! Bandai will be taking ALL sales into account when considering new releases. For instance let’s say that SS Goku sold 80% of 1000 units, whereas Frieza only sold 35% of 1000 units. Now a sensible person would deduce that the interest/demand for Goku figures is 45% greater than Frieza figures. Meaning, it is statistically in your favour to produce a new Goku figure, based on previous sales performance. Do you risk a shortfall on sales by releasing a figure proven to sell less, or do you cash in on a product that has been proven to sell higher? Now look what you've done! You've turned me into Mr.Shu, and for that I hate you! Remember this. "No-body talks back to Mr. Shu"! Wipoosh!
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 18, 2013 0:34:09 GMT -6
Y U editz!?
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