Silrian
Rank: Frieza's Soldier
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Post by Silrian on Oct 15, 2013 8:55:30 GMT -6
I dont know if this counts as starting an argument again Branjita. I think I've made my point anyway, so if someone still feels like disagreeing with me, I'll agree to disagree. I feel I can't solidify my argument much more than this anyway.
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Post by Adrenaline on Oct 15, 2013 9:11:29 GMT -6
I see it this way, especially as someone who hasn't collected one of these yet. They're making Krillin for goodness sakes....what made them choose Krillin? If he's getting a figure, I'm pretty confident that Yamcha and Tien will too down the road. Just a matter of when.
Lastly, I think a Fat Buu Figuarts would be really neat!
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Post by Branjita on Oct 15, 2013 10:13:36 GMT -6
A lot of what Son Kakarot said was interesting and spot on IMO. Silrean, I don't know how they could possibly skip Kid Buu or Majin Vegeta, and doubt anyone could really argue a very strong argument about why they wouldn't/shouldn't eventually be made. I'd be surprised if they weren't in the next 10 figures we see. I hope they fill out the Saiyan Saga and Frieza Saga before getting too Buu Saga focused though. I'd be kind of pissed to see a Figuarts Pui Pui, Spopovich, Pikkon, or Great Saiyaman while still waiting for the more well known characters I want them to make . DBZ Kai's Buu Saga is currently being made as far as I know. When Buu Saga is on TV, then they should release a bunch of Buu Saga characters, including a re-release of SS3 Goku with better colors. I don't know how many months/years we are from Buu Saga being on TV, but that's my hope. I'd love to have Yamcha, Tien, and the entire Ginyu Force on my shelves ASAP . And, I would of course love to have a Zarbon, Dodoria, and Frieza form 1, but those aren't priorities to me right now.
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Silrian
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Post by Silrian on Oct 15, 2013 11:13:11 GMT -6
Yeaaah I've been mentioning the kai thing on sideshow for a while as well now. It's actually the only reason why thusfar I was always saying just finish the android characters and when Kai comes out, Buu releases kick in. But because we're constantly discussing the 'what do you want now' thing, it's just a freight train passing by how most people just want the icons from the Buu period. And because I can understand that, and because we now know the line's doing well. I'm like fine, have 'm already. But yeah what Adrenaline said, if they do Krillin, and they feel good on marketing Krillin, I also don't see why we wouldn't see the Android Z fighter team get completed down the road. My proposal before Pwn gave his updates was the following: 2014: (Goku) - 18 - 17 - Nappa - Saiyan Armoured Trunks and/or Android 16. 2015 with Buu, Vegeta, Gohan and Goten/Trunks (and more or whatever). I know that doesn't have much actual minor characters, but... I just don't see room for them yet and I don't think they'll hold off on Buu characters for more than a year tops. Unfortunately it seems we can definitely scrape Nappa from that list for now.
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Post by Adrenaline on Oct 15, 2013 11:45:54 GMT -6
I think they'd make more money off a Super Buu than a Kid Buu (size and product usage) Not to mention his build is perfect for the Figuarts style whereas a Kid Buu might be fragile and a Fat Buu would be, well, difficult to construct. Either is a good choice though for its own reasons.
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Post by Branjita on Oct 15, 2013 11:54:27 GMT -6
I think Super Buu is more iconic personally. It's been years since I have seen the Buu Saga, but I remember he was in dozens of episodes while Kid Buu was in between 1 and 10 episodes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 13:03:45 GMT -6
I would hope Super Buu is more iconic, because I would much rather have him then another smaller figure. It would be great variation among the major villain sizes. I really want him for the Ultimate Gohan fight. Kid Buu seems to be more popular though. However, when I look on favorite villains lists, a lot of people put "Buu-han" as their favorite. Which is probably mine. I love that he's tauntingly wears Goku's son's garb, reminding him, he's attacking his son, with each blow.
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Silrian
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Post by Silrian on Oct 15, 2013 15:24:13 GMT -6
Completely agree with you Bane and I'll have you I think super buu shouldve been his final form. But he wasnt. Super Buu is the only Buu id consider buying, but the majority of buu fans themselves seem ver clearly outspoken pro kid buu. A good deal of 'm probably cause its his final form.
I mean in the sideshow poll now kid buu is at 11 and super buu at like 1... Like, dafaq? Suprised me tbh.
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Post by timone317 on Oct 15, 2013 16:18:36 GMT -6
Fans demand appropriate scale or no sale...let's take a look at how big Super Buu actually is. Tall as or taller than Nappa, and we all know what's going on with Nappa. Kid Buu seems more realistic to expect solely due to his size...plus final form, yadda yadda yadda...Kid Buu was present in the last major villain fight in DBZ and has a bit more presence than Super Buu (I only remember him for the Gotenks fight and being tossed around by Mystic Gohan).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 16:29:48 GMT -6
Kid Buu has always been my guess for a Buu release just because of having Frieza and Cell in their final forms.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 16:51:57 GMT -6
The Perfect Cell and Piccolo were too small and Gohan and Vegeta were too tall (although I don't mind at that end). Napa is a lot bulkier and has more tooling with the Saiyan armor. I don't think it would need accessories, besides a couple extra heads. Smiling, mad, and yelling, and wouldn't need too that many hands. I know you're right Timone! It's all wishful thinking, but if we're being realistic here, Kid Buu is the way to go because he's more popular and will complete the final villains for people. Heck, nothing I say is going to mean anything, but I enjoy discussing it. I know I'm not going to get my Teen Goku, but I enjoy talking about how cool it would look in figuarts riding on kinto-un with the power pole on his back or him fighting Piccolo.
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Post by Branjita on Oct 15, 2013 17:14:18 GMT -6
I finally found this. In Dragonball Forever, Japanese fans voted on their favorite characters in DB/Z (this is from 2004). dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Kanzenban_Official_Guide:_Dragon_Ball_Forever Korin being so high up on the list is a surprise to me, and Yajirobe even being on the list is a surprise, but I'm happy about the other results... EXCEPT Goten! Maybe Goten isn't as annoying in the Japanese dub though or maybe I've just seen him being a brat in the movie with Broly, Kid Trunks, and Videl too many times I'm kind of surprised Android 18 is so much higher than Bulma. I expected Bulma to be above 18. I don't think I even included Mr. Satan/Hercule in the DBF polls. I don't remember anybody ever mentioning him either? Him being more popular than Yamcha or Tien in the US? I dunno... I'm guessing the poll in Dragonball Forever didn't include movie characters or fusion characters, because Gogeta, Gotenks, and Broly are missing and they are surely more liked than Yajirobe and it's hard to imagine Broly not making the list at all. No Nappa or Raditz either... or Ginyu Force members... With Krillin being released, I'm less worried about us only getting these characters: But I'm still concerned since they seem to be dragging their feet on the awesomeness of Nappa. Anyway, just thought I'd share those poll results. I wish I knew how many people were surveyed though, as that makes a big difference.
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Silrian
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Post by Silrian on Oct 15, 2013 17:50:59 GMT -6
Cool pull Bran, their top 5 is my top 5 (although I have a slightely different order). After that, totally not in agreement anymore. But then MAJIN BUU IS EIGHTH AND THE HIGHEST VILLAIN ON THE LIST. Dafaq man. Too bad you cant find a total survey entry count, cause this really discredits the 'villains arent popular in Japan' thing when it comes to DBZ. The lower part of the list does make it fishy imo.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 19:52:19 GMT -6
Aww. I like Goten. He really got the shaft in the Battle of Gods movie. I'm looking forward to seeing him in the Japanese version of the Buu Saga. I really liked him in the english dub though. The voice had to grow on me though. Pan in GT went from a intolerable sassy punk in the English Dub to a likeable character. The way she acted in the Japanese, made sense for the kind of family she had.
I like Nappa, but I like all those characters more than him. I love Korin! The only reason why I don't put him on a top list, is because I focusing on Z. Mr. Satan played a huge role in the Buu Saga, which I really had fun with.
I have the same order of the top 5 though. I actually thought King Piccolo was the best villain. He had that whole anarchy by dictatorship thing! And then making the people live in EVEN MORE fear with the lottery was awesome!
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Post by KingOfAllSaiyans on Oct 15, 2013 19:59:10 GMT -6
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Korin above Cell, Tien, Yamcha and Videl........
EDIT: Actually... KORIN IS ON THAT LIST?!
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