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Post by jj on Dec 11, 2020 12:05:50 GMT -6
Both realities can exist and be true.
$100 for a figure in a line that's been dropping around 12+ characters a year is a lot of money! Plus Bandai does seem to be charging more and more as time goes along. (I.E. Broly for his first release was $70 and they'll be comparable in size.) Plus financially times are tough for a lot of people. If you had asked me 3 years ago if I was getting the Ginyu Force line, I probably wouldn't have been able too afford it, honestly.
But also! This line is absolute fire right now and collecting it and posing figures has been such a wonderful hobby. Never in my wildest dreams when playing with the Irwin/Jakks figures as a kid did I think a line with such detail and consideration would exist. I adore the Figuarts line; the fact that Toriyama himself worked on the Freeza figure is astounding to me.
So yes, the line is fire, but also yes, Bandai is a gigantic multi-national corporation that is likely charging a LOT of overhead with their prices by taking advantage of "Whale" collectors, being us, that will likely pay whatever for any figure.
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Post by hono on Dec 11, 2020 12:34:29 GMT -6
But you’re getting two figures for US$100. I know it is a lot, but Figma/Max Factory charges 70-90 for way smaller figures and with very few accessories.
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Post by derelictbadger on Dec 11, 2020 12:54:11 GMT -6
The reality is only a small amount of people are going to be buying a Burter action figure. The price has been bumped up because of it. The price is up to make sure they don’t lose money if it doesn’t sell too well. On the other hand, the more popular figures are still relatively affordable. The last few Gokus have been cheap. I only really collect the major characters so the price of Burter doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Yes, it’s annoying but it’s not surprising given only a small subsection of collectors will even consider buying these minor characters.
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Post by Branjita on Dec 11, 2020 13:08:58 GMT -6
You know... Burter wouldn't be so expensive if they didn't include a mediocre $20 Guldo with him. They also could have made him bigger if they didn't stick Guldo in the same box as him. I think it's pretty silly that Super Buu and Fat Buu are enormous figures (like... crazy huge figures), yet Tamashii would cut a few corners with other characters like Nappa, Recoome, Burter, and Android 16 by making them around half an inch too short. It reminds me of how ToyBiz in the 1990s would make Wolverine figures basically the same size as Cyclops and Gambit, while Cyclops was 6'3" and Gambit was 6'2" and Wolverine (back then) was supposed to be 5'3". Of course, those figures were $3.99 to $4.99 so... what's the excuse of Tamashii's?
Bugs me a lot. I'm not a Tamashii super geek who pays attention to their other product lines, but I do know their Kingdom Hearts and Sailor Moon figures didn't have scaling problems. They didn't make Chibi Moon or Donald Duck the size of Kid Goku to prevent people from breaking their elbows or wrists.
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Post by aquamarina on Dec 11, 2020 13:53:40 GMT -6
I have some version of all the senshi and I'm honestly always terrified their wrists are going to break or their arms are going to snap, especially since I have had Mercury's arm break, considering what I've paid for some them breaking TERRIFIES me. I would honestly rather some scaling issues if it meant they were higher quality and could actually stand on their own.
I honestly don't think I would ever get Burter (he doesn't really do enough in the show to endear me to where I want him). But I was honestly SO close to jumping on Jeice and Recoome, and even Raditz, but the price just, holds me back. I really regret not jumping on Jeice since he seems all around sold out at this point (any advice on that? I'm still really new to collecting I only really started last year lol) but, I can't work during my semesters and I just, have a hard time justifying these figures and am constantly finding myself needing to cut back. I'm rambling but there's so much in this line I want to get but I just, can't afford. It has been on fire recently though, seriously we're constantly getting cool figures and that doesn'tseem to be stopping anytime soon and I'm glad for that. ^^
Whish I could afford more lol
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Post by jj on Dec 11, 2020 17:29:48 GMT -6
But you’re getting two figures for US$100. I know it is a lot, but Figma/Max Factory charges 70-90 for way smaller figures and with very few accessories. You're getting one articulate figure and a second figure that's virtually a hunk of plastic with an accessory or two that can be swapped out. It's honestly pretty comparable to Broly v1, which is going to likely still be much bigger than Burter, came with 3 energy balls, and a unique stand for him and the balls. That's around $100 (plus premium tax & shipping) for Burter & Guldo vs a retail $67 for Broly & his accessories. It's been around half a decade since the releases, so inflation isn't much of a factor. The overall pricing trend of the line has gone up as well. 1.0 Figuarts (2009 - 2015) priced nearly all figures at $40.00, with exceptions for two larger figures in the $60's. 2.0 Figuarts (2016 - 2020) prices at an average at $60.00, now with figures upwards to $100. Every Figma also comes with a stand, a bag for accessories, an accessory for organizing hands, ect. But also, yeah, it's overpriced. Again, I'm not saying to not be excited, stoked, and to support the line, I do support it and I am excited for it! I just also understand I'm being played for profit lol. I honestly don't think I would ever get Burter (he doesn't really do enough in the show to endear me to where I want him). But I was honestly SO close to jumping on Jeice and Recoome, and even Raditz, but the price just, holds me back. I really regret not jumping on Jeice since he seems all around sold out at this point (any advice on that? I'm still really new to collecting I only really started last year lol) but, I can't work during my semesters and I just, have a hard time justifying these figures and am constantly finding myself needing to cut back. I'm rambling but there's so much in this line I want to get but I just, can't afford. It has been on fire recently though, seriously we're constantly getting cool figures and that doesn'tseem to be stopping anytime soon and I'm glad for that. ^^ Whish I could afford more lol I'm sorry you're in that position! I remember sweating the line when it was a yearly quarterly release when I was in college. Regarding Jeice, it looks like there's a scalper on e-bay with 100% satisfaction with 6593 reviews that's offering pre-orders at the Premium Bandai price. I haven't purchased from them so I can't directly vouch, but that seems a decent shot. Plus, ebay guarantees money back. www.ebay.com/itm/DRAGON-BALL-Z-JEICE-S-H-FIGUARTS-BANDAI-NEW-PRE-ORDER/174469535937?hash=item289f31d8c1:g:hFsAAOSw4j1e~tG3
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Post by Kleo on Dec 11, 2020 18:09:52 GMT -6
But you’re getting two figures for US$100. I know it is a lot, but Figma/Max Factory charges 70-90 for way smaller figures and with very few accessories. You're getting one articulate figure and a second figure that's virtually a hunk of plastic with an accessory or two that can be swapped out. It's honestly pretty comparable to Broly v1, which is going to likely still be much bigger than Burter, came with 3 energy balls, and a unique stand for him and the balls. That's around $100 (plus premium tax & shipping) for Burter & Guldo vs a retail $67 for Broly & his accessories. It's been around half a decade since the releases, so inflation isn't much of a factor. jj spitting facts
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Post by hono on Dec 11, 2020 18:13:58 GMT -6
But you’re getting two figures for US$100. I know it is a lot, but Figma/Max Factory charges 70-90 for way smaller figures and with very few accessories. You're getting one articulate figure and a second figure that's virtually a hunk of plastic with an accessory or two that can be swapped out. It's honestly pretty comparable to Broly v1, which is going to likely still be much bigger than Burter, came with 3 energy balls, and a unique stand for him and the balls. That's around $100 (plus premium tax & shipping) for Burter & Guldo vs a retail $67 for Broly & his accessories. It's been around half a decade since the releases, so inflation isn't much of a factor. The overall pricing trend of the line has gone up as well. 1.0 Figuarts (2009 - 2015) priced nearly all figures at $40.00, with exceptions for two larger figures in the $60's. 2.0 Figuarts (2016 - 2020) prices at an average at $60.00, now with figures upwards to $100. Every Figma also comes with a stand, a bag for accessories, an accessory for organizing hands, ect. But also, yeah, it's overpriced. Again, I'm not saying to not be excited, stoked, and to support the line, I do support it and I am excited for it! I just also understand I'm being played for profit lol. I honestly don't think I would ever get Burter (he doesn't really do enough in the show to endear me to where I want him). But I was honestly SO close to jumping on Jeice and Recoome, and even Raditz, but the price just, holds me back. I really regret not jumping on Jeice since he seems all around sold out at this point (any advice on that? I'm still really new to collecting I only really started last year lol) but, I can't work during my semesters and I just, have a hard time justifying these figures and am constantly finding myself needing to cut back. I'm rambling but there's so much in this line I want to get but I just, can't afford. It has been on fire recently though, seriously we're constantly getting cool figures and that doesn'tseem to be stopping anytime soon and I'm glad for that. ^^ Whish I could afford more lol I'm sorry you're in that position! I remember sweating the line when it was a yearly quarterly release when I was in college. Regarding Jeice, it looks like there's a scalper on e-bay with 100% satisfaction with 6593 reviews that's offering pre-orders at the Premium Bandai price. I haven't purchased from them so I can't directly vouge, but that seems a decent shot. Plus, ebay guarantees money back. www.ebay.com/itm/DRAGON-BALL-Z-JEICE-S-H-FIGUARTS-BANDAI-NEW-PRE-ORDER/174469535937?hash=item289f31d8c1:g:hFsAAOSw4j1e~tG3I agree with you. I am just saying that by nowadays prices it is “reasonable” if you compare with Recoome’s price.
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Post by friezku on Dec 11, 2020 22:52:30 GMT -6
But you’re getting two figures for US$100. I know it is a lot, but Figma/Max Factory charges 70-90 for way smaller figures and with very few accessories. You're getting one articulate figure and a second figure that's virtually a hunk of plastic with an accessory or two that can be swapped out. It's honestly pretty comparable to Broly v1, which is going to likely still be much bigger than Burter, came with 3 energy balls, and a unique stand for him and the balls. That's around $100 (plus premium tax & shipping) for Burter & Guldo vs a retail $67 for Broly & his accessories. It's been around half a decade since the releases, so inflation isn't much of a factor. The overall pricing trend of the line has gone up as well. 1.0 Figuarts (2009 - 2015) priced nearly all figures at $40.00, with exceptions for two larger figures in the $60's. 2.0 Figuarts (2016 - 2020) prices at an average at $60.00, now with figures upwards to $100. Every Figma also comes with a stand, a bag for accessories, an accessory for organizing hands, ect. But also, yeah, it's overpriced. Again, I'm not saying to not be excited, stoked, and to support the line, I do support it and I am excited for it! I just also understand I'm being played for profit lol. I honestly don't think I would ever get Burter (he doesn't really do enough in the show to endear me to where I want him). But I was honestly SO close to jumping on Jeice and Recoome, and even Raditz, but the price just, holds me back. I really regret not jumping on Jeice since he seems all around sold out at this point (any advice on that? I'm still really new to collecting I only really started last year lol) but, I can't work during my semesters and I just, have a hard time justifying these figures and am constantly finding myself needing to cut back. I'm rambling but there's so much in this line I want to get but I just, can't afford. It has been on fire recently though, seriously we're constantly getting cool figures and that doesn'tseem to be stopping anytime soon and I'm glad for that. ^^ Whish I could afford more lol I'm sorry you're in that position! I remember sweating the line when it was a yearly quarterly release when I was in college. Regarding Jeice, it looks like there's a scalper on e-bay with 100% satisfaction with 6593 reviews that's offering pre-orders at the Premium Bandai price. I haven't purchased from them so I can't directly vouch, but that seems a decent shot. Plus, ebay guarantees money back. www.ebay.com/itm/DRAGON-BALL-Z-JEICE-S-H-FIGUARTS-BANDAI-NEW-PRE-ORDER/174469535937?hash=item289f31d8c1:g:hFsAAOSw4j1e~tG3Cool.! Thanks For The Link
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Post by aquamarina on Dec 12, 2020 8:47:54 GMT -6
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Post by hono on Dec 12, 2020 8:58:20 GMT -6
I'm sorry you're in that position! I remember sweating the line when it was a yearly quarterly release when I was in college. Regarding Jeice, it looks like there's a scalper on e-bay with 100% satisfaction with 6593 reviews that's offering pre-orders at the Premium Bandai price. I haven't purchased from them so I can't directly vouch, but that seems a decent shot. Plus, ebay guarantees money back. www.ebay.com/itm/DRAGON-BALL-Z-JEICE-S-H-FIGUARTS-BANDAI-NEW-PRE-ORDER/174469535937?hash=item289f31d8c1:g:hFsAAOSw4j1e~tG3Thank you so much! ^ ^ I’m going to buy from them, I truly appreciate it thank you so much! ^ ^ Global freaks is not a scalper, it`s a spanish store, I get most of my figures from them, so you can buy it with no worries.
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Post by aquamarina on Dec 12, 2020 13:30:24 GMT -6
I'm sorry you're in that position! I remember sweating the line when it was a yearly quarterly release when I was in college. Regarding Jeice, it looks like there's a scalper on e-bay with 100% satisfaction with 6593 reviews that's offering pre-orders at the Premium Bandai price. I haven't purchased from them so I can't directly vouch, but that seems a decent shot. Plus, ebay guarantees money back. www.ebay.com/itm/DRAGON-BALL-Z-JEICE-S-H-FIGUARTS-BANDAI-NEW-PRE-ORDER/174469535937?hash=item289f31d8c1:g:hFsAAOSw4j1e~tG3Thank you so much! ^ ^ I’m going to buy from them, I truly appreciate it thank you so much! ^ ^ Global freaks is not a scalper, it`s a spanish store, I get most of my figures from them, so you can buy it with no worries. Thank you for confirming that! ^^ When I looked around on their page I figured they were a store, they seemed like it and I've actually wanted to buy from them in the past. ^ ^ Their prices are really good, definetly getting at least Jeice from them. ^^
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Post by tabuuforteakugun on Dec 12, 2020 15:10:50 GMT -6
I did, and will get Recoome and Burter from them too. They're extremely helpful and courteous.
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Post by planetvegeta on Dec 13, 2020 10:36:36 GMT -6
It's reassuring that some of you guys have had a good experience with Global Freaks. I pre-ordered from them not long ago for the first time. I first saw the prices they had which was the same, or roughly the same as P-Bandai's pre-order prices. It seemed kind of too go to be true. I then saw the 100% score they have on Ebay and they had a lot of customer reviews. So, I thought I'd give them a shot. I also didn't see an import charge or anything like that in the checkout so that was great.
I'm a little late to the discussion, but I wanted to say that I'm gonna collect the entire Ginyu Force. Yeah, $100 for Burter is crazy, but as we all know, Guldo is included. Sure he isn't articulated, but they probably weren't sure if there would be much demand for him as a stand alone toy. It's worth bringing up Chiaotzu who is also a very small character and in DBZ at least, he barely does anything (like Guldo and even Burter for that matter). He was also included with another toy and he only had one pose which was very limited at that (self-destruct). We now know they're making a Chiaotzu with articulation. So, maybe if there's enough demand, we'll get a Guldo with articulation. I won't get my hopes up though. One is a Z warrior/Dragon team member, and the other is the weakest member of a group of villains that only appeared in about one half of a saga.
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Post by crisis on Dec 13, 2020 13:25:06 GMT -6
I can’t imagine Chiaotzu being a separate stand alone release, so either he comes with Tienshinhan or perhaps Oolong & Puar. Ironically Guldo had more to do than Burter. He had a unique advantage & ability, whereas Burter was just... fast? And he still wasn’t as fast as Goku lol
I really want the next reveal to be SHF Porunga by the way
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