mattsk1
Rank: Namekian Frog
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Post by mattsk1 on Sept 3, 2019 16:12:52 GMT -6
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Post by Branjita on Sept 4, 2019 10:36:05 GMT -6
I thought this would be easy, but it wasn't. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. I believe this is AB, but it is from a gumball machine in France and never sold in a package. saiyen implied to me that the 2 inch figures from France that have never been seen in a package were likely from a gumball machine. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. Looks like a Chara Puchi King Kai or a bootleg of it 14. 15. 16. That's a legit Future Gohan AB mold, but I don't know if yours is a bootleg or a Kidz Biz release or what it might be in the photo. But it was definitely a part of a Coffret. 17. 18. 19. 20. Not sure where that Uub figure came from, but it looks fantastic. 21. Chara Puchi Yardrat Goku or bootleg 22. 23. Very old, possibly valuable Bandai Keshi Vegeta 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. Also, I'm going to try to edit your post so the numbered picture displays as a photo. |
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mattsk1
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Post by mattsk1 on Sept 5, 2019 14:35:59 GMT -6
Thank you so much for taking the time, Branjita ! 13 and 21 are indeed from that series but are missing the other pieces, that's why they were hard to find. Thank you for clearing that up. One thing I've notice with the probable bootleg versions of the the AB collection is that(sometimes) you notice a different kind of material being used which clearly is the case for number 25. As bootlegs are often(mostly) based on official figures, there should be a series I don't know of. The gumball machine figurines could be the answer to this as I can vaguely recall putting quarters into them. Are there any official documents on those? Or anything known at all? A lot of them are smaller replicas of the AB coffret variants while others aren't. Second thing I noticed is nr 24, 9 and 11 all seem to be from the same series. Altough they don't show any marking of Bandai or B/St which makes me think they are bootlegs. But then on one of the 11s I do notice a mark (picture below) that says Bandai. Which suggests it would be a replica of a series I missed. res.cloudinary.com/dje78bsjf/image/upload/v1567715512/dbz/IMG_20190905_222300_e31sdc.jpgres.cloudinary.com/dje78bsjf/image/upload/v1567715522/dbz/IMG_20190905_222238_erpofv.jpgAgain, I greatly appreciate the effort! |
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Post by Branjita on Sept 6, 2019 14:27:02 GMT -6
mattsk1 Something else to research is the 1 and 2 inch figures from Europe by Panini and Dolci Preziosi. I used to really like 2 inch figures, but I kind of grew out of it. I also don't really like Buu Saga, so I have always paid a lot less attention to Super Saiyan characters than non. I don't have the Panini or Dolci Preziosi figures memorized anymore (if I ever did). Some of those figures might be by those companies. Some of those you have look very high quality and they could be Bandai. You might have to search www.ebay.it or www.ebay.fr to get results for those figures. There are also some very difficult to find Ultra Figus figures from Mexico and Central/South America. They are extremely good. I don't believe any of yours are those though. Regarding material, as I recall, AB France 2 inch figures are rubbery PVC and somewhat flexible... Irwin's US rerelease of many of the AB figures are a harder PVC that isn't as flexible... and then Kidz Biz's rerelease of several AB figures were often different in colors and a much less flexible plastic. There were also Bandai 2 inch figures, all with various product names. I barely know those at all, and only know that Irwin rereleased 4 sets of them and they all have very sharp/precise details compared to AB 2 inch figures and every little bit of plastic is painted (unlike some AB figures where the skin is unpainted plastic). There's also 2 inch and similar figures that came with other things. MGA's pinball game came with some 2 inch figures that are unique, but they are all attached to lime green bases I think. There are only two different varieties of gumball machine figures I can think of. There were some relatively terrible (only because the paint jobs were bad and not durable) Funimation branded ones (Yamcha, Bulma, Oolong, kid Trunks, some others) in the US and maybe Canada too.        And then the honestly kind of amazing French ones that are likely AB. They were mostly Saiyan Saga characters and some Namek Saga ones. I'll attach a few pictures I've saved over the years from ebay France. Ignore the Funky Kai and Boss Rabbit in the picture with the Paozusaurus... only the Paozusaurus is AB and from a gumball machine. The funky Kai is AB though... and the Boss Rabbit is Bandai Full Color gashapon.           I don't recognize your Gokus, but they say Bandai, so you'd just have to go through the misery of researching those. This website might help you out: retroballz.net/en/full-color-battle-figures/
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Post by pacensero1 on Mar 3, 2021 4:01:52 GMT -6
Hello.
My theory is that there is a parallel collection published only in France, with the Namek and Saiyan saga (figures of the same scale as AB toys, maybe a little bigger) and also there's variants of models, I mean, I have two Nappa with different colour of skin. The other collection was published in gumball capsules but with AB molds. toys, with a much lower quality and finish, and more moldable plastic (flexible, as Branjit said). I don't even think they were made by AB toys, they have the bs st 1989 inscripion, though. You can identify them because they usually have a curved body or curved limbs, those are the ones that came in gumball capsules (that's why their body is like this, because of the lack of space). They also may have differences in skin tone (that's annoying for me because that implies that each character can have a variant)
Also in France , Quick restaurants released a collection of AB toys pvc figures but they are basically the main characters (the figures that came in set 1 -6 of 6 figures each). The same characters that in 1996 we could buy in Spain at newsstands.
In addition, there's another low-quality collection, much worse than the others regarding to the very poor finish of the painting. They were sold at bazaars
I have just bought some figures and there's two that I can't identify, Goten and Trunks; they might be bootleg: the scale is bigger than AB figures, and there's no info or inscription on them; also the appearance, physiognomy and posture is too weird. I mean, they can't be AB toys figures or replicas of AB Goten -Trunks performing a fusion, because the AB ones have other design of legs. Could someone tell me wich collection do they belong to?
Finally, I mention another figure that I have seen a lot, it's Babidi, they sell it as "AB toys" but actually I have had one, could compare and the scale was bigger than ab toys; I could't identify it . I have read on dragonball fandom that "Another miniature figurine was released in scale with the Irwin and AB Groupe miniature figurines. " but definitely I can't find the collection which it belongs to
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Post by Branjita on Mar 9, 2021 12:44:32 GMT -6
These are all hard questions! I don't know the answers...  |
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Post by crisis on Mar 9, 2021 14:10:35 GMT -6
Wow I remember these. First time I clicked on this thread. I recall buying several of these gashapons baaaack in the day.
I also vaguely recall buying a weird gashapon in like the early 90’s, I was so young I didn’t even know what DBZ was yet. But when I became familiar with DBZ, I recognized where the gashapon was from, but I no longer had it in my possession. It was a chibi Gohan, molded in a purple clear material. I wish I still had it because I haven’t seen it anywhere since
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