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Post by monolithic on Jul 13, 2015 18:35:48 GMT -6
Hence why collecting children's toys is a luxury and not a necessity. Hasbro, Megablocks, and Little Einstein's are children's toys. Figuarts fall in the category of adult collectibles. Just wanted to clarify that. You are right though that collecting figures is strictly a luxury. I can see both sides of the coin as a collector that has to fork over money but also as a seller that wants to make as much money as possible (it's called making an excellent profit). I don't like scalpers as a collector but then again I'm not gonna blame someone that sells a product for profit and actually makes good profit. If someone's gonna buy a piece of paper from you for $500, why would you sell it to them for any less. That's just silly. Whatever helps you sleep at night!  |
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Post by orestes on Jul 13, 2015 18:49:39 GMT -6
even low feedback ebay sellers comes up selling sdcc goku ..
haih, no chance for me now
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Post by monolithic on Jul 13, 2015 19:17:21 GMT -6
There is no such thing an inexperienced bidder, just consumers with money.
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Post by FromTheInside on Jul 13, 2015 20:31:17 GMT -6
I'm still holding out for Bluefin. Patience is a virtue.
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Post by tjduckett on Jul 13, 2015 21:45:23 GMT -6
There is no such thing an inexperienced bidder, just consumers with money. I'm not being sarcastic when I say that your responses on this page have been awesome. Clear and concise. Good stuff. |
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Post by supersaiyansanchez on Jul 13, 2015 23:22:31 GMT -6
Jus be patient everyone once the figure is up on bluefin than we'll b all good
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Post by Adz on Jul 14, 2015 1:31:49 GMT -6
Jus be patient everyone once the figure is up on bluefin than we'll b all good yeah - if you live in 'merica!!  |
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Post by SupremeKai on Jul 14, 2015 1:32:12 GMT -6
There is no such thing an inexperienced bidder, just consumers with money. That sir, is a stupid belief. Of course there is such a thing as being inexperienced or even totally inept at bidding, as it is in all things. There are tactics in bidding that come only from experience. An experienced bidder may even win out against those with a much more endowed purse, through such tactics. It is not always those with the most money that wins. The real reasons for inflation come mainly from inexperienced bidders frantically driving the price up through fear or losing out. Essentially this is in essence how all of the world's economy functions. There will always be good purchases and bad purchases, just like investments. Naturally it takes an experienced bidder to discern the two and know when to invest. That is why you sir are wrong. |
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Post by monolithic on Jul 14, 2015 5:19:00 GMT -6
There is no such thing an inexperienced bidder, just consumers with money. That sir, is a stupid belief. Of course there is such a thing as being inexperienced or even totally inept at bidding, as it is in all things. There are tactics in bidding that come only from experience. An experienced bidder may even win out against those with a much more endowed purse, through such tactics. It is not always those with the most money that wins. The real reasons for inflation come mainly from inexperienced bidders frantically driving the price up through fear or losing out. Essentially this is in essence how all of the world's economy functions. There will always be good purchases and bad purchases, just like investments. Naturally it takes an experienced bidder to discern the two and know when to invest. That is why you sir are wrong. This isn't a sport. We're not debating good or bad purchases. We're talking about people spending money. If I try and snipe bid a product but they had a higher bid than myself? Guess what? They still get the item. It's the consumer equivalent to gambling. I'm sorry the idea of people who have money, a desire and a lack of market knowledge scares you but as you said, this is how supply and demand works. So in that regard? No, there is no inexperienced bidder because when a person puts down money on something, that determines worth to that person. Your comparison to investment is completely off. While people do try and turn a profit off of figures you are failing to acknowledge that the collectibles market has a large number of people with disposable income who when they want an item for their collection, they get it. It's a fact. |
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Post by Chibi_Gohan on Jul 14, 2015 7:56:44 GMT -6
There is no such thing an inexperienced bidder, just consumers with money. That sir, is a stupid belief. Of course there is such a thing as being inexperienced or even totally inept at bidding, as it is in all things. There are tactics in bidding that come only from experience. An experienced bidder may even win out against those with a much more endowed purse, through such tactics. It is not always those with the most money that wins. The real reasons for inflation come mainly from inexperienced bidders frantically driving the price up through fear or losing out. Essentially this is in essence how all of the world's economy functions. There will always be good purchases and bad purchases, just like investments. Naturally it takes an experienced bidder to discern the two and know when to invest. That is why you sir are wrong. Yet you dropped 170 on this figure. Thanks for driving up the price for us true collectors. You should really learn to be a more experienced bidder. |
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Post by jacob on Jul 14, 2015 8:20:04 GMT -6
The invisible hand is a marvelous thing.
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Post by Crocapete on Jul 14, 2015 8:26:42 GMT -6
A true collector doesn't have anything to do with the price of something, IMO a true collector gets what they collect with no concern of money. Im not lucky enough to be in that branch lol.
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Post by wiizardii01 on Jul 14, 2015 10:01:57 GMT -6
gokkuuuuuuuu
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Post by SupremeKai on Jul 14, 2015 11:21:02 GMT -6
That sir, is a stupid belief. Of course there is such a thing as being inexperienced or even totally inept at bidding, as it is in all things. There are tactics in bidding that come only from experience. An experienced bidder may even win out against those with a much more endowed purse, through such tactics. It is not always those with the most money that wins. The real reasons for inflation come mainly from inexperienced bidders frantically driving the price up through fear or losing out. Essentially this is in essence how all of the world's economy functions. There will always be good purchases and bad purchases, just like investments. Naturally it takes an experienced bidder to discern the two and know when to invest. That is why you sir are wrong. This isn't a sport. We're not debating good or bad purchases. We're talking about people spending money. If I try and snipe bid a product but they had a higher bid than myself? Guess what? They still get the item. It's the consumer equivalent to gambling. I'm sorry the idea of people who have money, a desire and a lack of market knowledge scares you but as you said, this is how supply and demand works. So in that regard? No, there is no inexperienced bidder because when a person puts down money on something, that determines worth to that person. Your comparison to investment is completely off. While people do try and turn a profit off of figures you are failing to acknowledge that the collectibles market has a large number of people with disposable income who when they want an item for their collection, they get it. It's a fact. Are you even able to communicate, without making it so painfully obvious exactly how stupid you are. Your stubbornness and outright refusal to accept the obvious fact that you are wrong does not make your argument right. You said there is no such thing as an inexperienced bidder, and that there is no advantage whatsoever to prior experiences with auctions. So, therefore the fledgling eBayer is just as experienced at placing a successful bid as those who are placing their hundredth or even thousandth bid. That is just dumb! Knowing when to place a bid can be just as important as the number you enter - maybe even more so. So you would say there are no advantages to extrapolating opposition bidders past bidding increments to better estimate their current highest bid, allowing you to efficiently outbid competition at the last second - ensuring you the lowest probable margin for success and the best end price possible. I'm afraid you aren't fully comprehending the true art of bidding in auctions. The idea isn't to simply win the auction by bidding the highest. Any Arab with an oil well and Swiss bank book can do that. It's about making your purchases at the best possible price - knowing that an auction has exceeded the item's worth and when to walk away. True victory comes from placing a well timed bid and securing an item for well bellow the items real value - leaving your opposition crushed and in a bewildered stupor. Such a flawless victory can only come from experience cultivated through the years of trial and error. Point, case. |
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Post by prodigy1367 on Jul 14, 2015 11:42:11 GMT -6
This isn't a sport. We're not debating good or bad purchases. We're talking about people spending money. If I try and snipe bid a product but they had a higher bid than myself? Guess what? They still get the item. It's the consumer equivalent to gambling. I'm sorry the idea of people who have money, a desire and a lack of market knowledge scares you but as you said, this is how supply and demand works. So in that regard? No, there is no inexperienced bidder because when a person puts down money on something, that determines worth to that person. Your comparison to investment is completely off. While people do try and turn a profit off of figures you are failing to acknowledge that the collectibles market has a large number of people with disposable income who when they want an item for their collection, they get it. It's a fact. Are you even able to communicate, without making it so painfully obvious exactly how stupid you are. Your stubbornness and outright refusal to accept the obvious fact that you are wrong does not make your argument right. You said there is no such thing as an inexperienced bidder, and that there is no advantage whatsoever to prior experiences with auctions. So, therefore the fledgling eBayer is just as experienced at placing a successful bid as those who are placing their hundredth or even thousandth bid. That is just dumb! Knowing when to place a bid can be just as important as the number you enter - maybe even more so. So you would say there are no advantages to extrapolating opposition bidders past bidding increments to better estimate their current highest bid, allowing you to efficiently outbid competition at the last second - ensuring you the lowest probable margin for success and the best end price possible. I'm afraid you aren't fully comprehending the true art of bidding in auctions. The idea isn't to simply win the auction by bidding the highest. Any Arab with an oil well and Swiss bank book can do that. It's about making your purchases at the best possible price - knowing that an auction has exceeded the item's worth and when to walk away. True victory comes from placing a well timed bid and securing an item for well bellow the items real value - leaving your opposition crushed and in a bewildered stupor. Such a flawless victory can only come from experience cultivated through the years of trial and error. Point, case. That last paragraph just struck a cord in the violin that is my heart. Well said. Bidding is about trying to get the product for cheaper than it goes for. Why even have bids if we can just buy it now for a higher price? Bidding is a rush and an art. |
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