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Post by angelo2113 on Jun 18, 2016 0:00:40 GMT -6
Lets not forget about this guy. He might have an outdated look compared to the new Vegeta were getting in the Fall but none the less he looks too cool to just be swept under the rug. He won't be swept under the rug but he should move aside for awhile and be upgraded gradually over the years. I honestly welcome any Dragon Ball Heroes design but they should released them very few and far between while the animated series is the main focus. Super Saiyan 4 Broly and Super Saiyan 4 Gohan are amazing designs and I hope one day to see them released. I honestly think Resurrection'F and now Dragon Ball Super completely messed with their character release plans. Both good and bad for us fans. The GOOD is that there now is an increased focus on the line and Tamashii is definitely committing lots of resources towards it, hence why we're seeing new Regular releases with completely new molds and articulation technology, etc. The BAD is that some of the prototypes we anticipated seeing coming out like the Super Buu's and any other potential Z-character releases that Tamashii could've been planning got sidelined in favor of DBS characters like Beerus and Whis. Well said. Although, with the bad, there is a good in there. The prototypes that were sidelined have the opportunity to be upgraded over time as Super Saiyan 4 Goku has shown. (The only upgrade that either one of the Super Buu prototypes needed, at least that I could think of, were upgraded knees and they may very well already have them if Super Saiyan 4 Goku has them.)
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Post by blank on Jun 18, 2016 4:03:23 GMT -6
Yup its official, I got conformation from my source that the leaked pic of Broly for SDCC is indeed the SDCC exclusive. Apparently those pictures or that sheet with pictures is a list for like vendors and such. Which someone here also mentioned that too. So yup, the SDCC exclusive is that Broly.
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Post by antzcorton on Jun 18, 2016 14:43:43 GMT -6
Yup its official, I got conformation from my source that the leaked pic of Broly for SDCC is indeed the SDCC exclusive. Apparently those pictures or that sheet with pictures is a list for like vendors and such. Which someone here also mentioned that too. So yup, the SDCC exclusive is that Broly. Well with preview night just a month away I'm a little anxious to see this Broly for sale.
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Post by crisis on Jun 19, 2016 14:53:43 GMT -6
I think a lot of people truly underestimate the popularity of GT, and are just going by what they read & what other people say. If you constantly read something isn't popular over & over, you'll tend to believe it. Are there actual numbers or facts or data that show GT is hated worldwide? Do we have ratings statistics that show how many viewers tuned in over the years & to see if there was a gradual decline? Or are we just going by our gut instinct & general bias? We represent a small minority of the fanbase, and these message boards don't speak for everyone in every country in the world. Think of all the worldwide fans of GT that don't even participate on forums, literally thousands. Like it or hate it, GT isn't considered a failure, because there's still merchandise & memorabilia still being produced till this day.
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Post by vegetabreigh on Jun 19, 2016 15:47:48 GMT -6
I think a lot of people truly underestimate the popularity of GT, and are just going by what they read & what other people say. If you constantly read something isn't popular over & over, you'll tend to believe it. Are there actual numbers or facts or data that show GT is hated worldwide? Do we have ratings statistics that show how many viewers tuned in over the years & to see if there was a gradual decline? Or are we just going by our gut instinct & general bias? We represent a small minority of the fanbase, and these message boards don't speak for everyone in every country in the world. Think of all the worldwide fans of GT that don't even participate on forums, literally thousands. Like it or hate it, GT isn't considered a failure, because there's still merchandise & memorabilia still being produced till this day. Im not biased at all towards GT it was awful. I found it quite boring myself. Now as for the characters they were beautiful I thought Baby Vegeta, SS4 Goku and Vegeta along with Gogeta and Omega Shenron was awesome. The story was the reason nobody liked it. I hated watching kid Goku for the majority of episodes. Thats just my opinion. I do want figuarts of them though.
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Post by fuzzygoku on Jun 19, 2016 18:08:43 GMT -6
Maybe they oushed the ssj4 goku back because they are giving him the same hip joints. As said before, Goku is their best sellimg character thus theyre updating it because they want to make as much profit as they can. I would like to think that is true. If they've done away with the old molds that would mean that all future figures will come with the new articulation design. Exacty 5 weeks until SDCC 2016. Last year the most recent confirmed releases were the Dec/Jan PCE Vegeta & Trunks, but they showed us Beerus, SSGSS Vegeta and Jaco, which at that point were still only prototypes, with no guaranteed releases. Bearing that in mind, this is my guess for the exisiting prototypes that may be shown again: 1) SS4 Goku - Regardless of what I said previously, of the prototypes shown so far, this one looks the closest to completion and may see a release next year. 2) Jaco - Keeping the Super hype going (since the english dub is due to drop next month), I anticipate an updated Jaco. If we don't see him, it could spell bad news for our favorite little bugged eyed traffic cop. 3) Champa & Vados - As above, although their stint in the Japanese airing is over for now, with the english dub starting, they may get figures soon. 4) Kid Goku - They went to a lot of effort with his first display, so I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to release.5) Buu's - Sadly, less likely at this stage, although personally they are still at the top of my wishlist. 6) Many Goku's, Dragons, infamous SSJ3 Vegeta - doubtful. I won't even mention Nappa's chances. Potential new prototypes: 1) PCE Cell (Not confirmed, and unlikely to be revealed at SDCC, but possible) 2) PCE SS3 Goku (As above) I just wanted to clarify to you and many others who are still confused on what I bolded. This is not a Funimation produced english dub that is being made. This is a dub strictly for Toonami Asia to be produced and distributed in Southeast Asia and India with their own english dub cast. Funimation has stated REPEATEDLY that they have no involvement whatsoever with this dub in anyway. In case anyone needs further details on this dub, then check the ever reliable kanzenshuu here So I highly doubt that even if they do show off an updated Jaco, it would have nothing to do with that particular dub if at all.
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Post by kanji on Jun 20, 2016 1:34:31 GMT -6
I would like to think that is true. If they've done away with the old molds that would mean that all future figures will come with the new articulation design. Exacty 5 weeks until SDCC 2016. Last year the most recent confirmed releases were the Dec/Jan PCE Vegeta & Trunks, but they showed us Beerus, SSGSS Vegeta and Jaco, which at that point were still only prototypes, with no guaranteed releases. Bearing that in mind, this is my guess for the exisiting prototypes that may be shown again: 1) SS4 Goku - Regardless of what I said previously, of the prototypes shown so far, this one looks the closest to completion and may see a release next year. 2) Jaco - Keeping the Super hype going (since the english dub is due to drop next month), I anticipate an updated Jaco. If we don't see him, it could spell bad news for our favorite little bugged eyed traffic cop. 3) Champa & Vados - As above, although their stint in the Japanese airing is over for now, with the english dub starting, they may get figures soon. 4) Kid Goku - They went to a lot of effort with his first display, so I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to release.5) Buu's - Sadly, less likely at this stage, although personally they are still at the top of my wishlist. 6) Many Goku's, Dragons, infamous SSJ3 Vegeta - doubtful. I won't even mention Nappa's chances. Potential new prototypes: 1) PCE Cell (Not confirmed, and unlikely to be revealed at SDCC, but possible) 2) PCE SS3 Goku (As above) I just wanted to clarify to you and many others who are still confused on what I bolded. This is not a Funimation produced english dub that is being made. This is a dub strictly for Toonami Asia to be produced and distributed in Southeast Asia and India with their own english dub cast. Funimation has stated REPEATEDLY that they have no involvement whatsoever with this dub in anyway. In case anyone needs further details on this dub, then check the ever reliable kanzenshuu here So I highly doubt that even if they do show off an updated Jaco, it would have nothing to do with that particular dub if at all. Yeah, I know it's not Funimation, but I suspect it will make the series slightly more accessible to those fans that really can't stand listening to Japense Seiyuu's. I have a few friends in particular that dislike anime as a whole, but love DBZ. They can't watch it in Japanese though, so are waiting for an english version to start watching Super.
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Post by angelo2113 on Jun 20, 2016 8:57:41 GMT -6
I think a lot of people truly underestimate the popularity of GT, and are just going by what they read & what other people say. If you constantly read something isn't popular over & over, you'll tend to believe it. Are there actual numbers or facts or data that show GT is hated worldwide? Do we have ratings statistics that show how many viewers tuned in over the years & to see if there was a gradual decline? Or are we just going by our gut instinct & general bias? We represent a small minority of the fanbase, and these message boards don't speak for everyone in every country in the world. Think of all the worldwide fans of GT that don't even participate on forums, literally thousands. Like it or hate it, GT isn't considered a failure, because there's still merchandise & memorabilia still being produced till this day. Dragon Ball GT isn't considered a failure. Whether the consensus is that it was loved or hated, the designs created a lasting impact. The Super Saiyan 4 transformation, Baby, Super Android 17, and Black Star Dragons continue to be represented in merchandise. Dragon Ball Heroes is taking some of those designs and going further with them. Super Saiyan 4 Broly and Gohan, Baby taking over other characters, and Super Android 17 merging with Android 18. Adam Newman stated that Tamashii Nations has plans for the Dragon Ball Character Categories for the next 5 - 10 years. It's only a matter of time before they have some sort of focus on Dragon Ball GT designs. Super Saiyan 4 Goku, whether it be S.H. Figuarts, Figuarts Zero, Figuarts Zero EX, will open the door for those designs. Also, the Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta prototype showed that Tamashii Nations is willing to produce other designs if the market is there. I was surprised that quite a few people were hoping the new "Super Saiyan Vegeta" was Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta.
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Post by kanji on Jun 20, 2016 14:44:20 GMT -6
I think a lot of people truly underestimate the popularity of GT, and are just going by what they read & what other people say. If you constantly read something isn't popular over & over, you'll tend to believe it. Are there actual numbers or facts or data that show GT is hated worldwide? Do we have ratings statistics that show how many viewers tuned in over the years & to see if there was a gradual decline? Or are we just going by our gut instinct & general bias? We represent a small minority of the fanbase, and these message boards don't speak for everyone in every country in the world. Think of all the worldwide fans of GT that don't even participate on forums, literally thousands. Like it or hate it, GT isn't considered a failure, because there's still merchandise & memorabilia still being produced till this day. Dragon Ball GT isn't considered a failure. Whether the consensus is that it was loved or hated, the designs created a lasting impact. The Super Saiyan 4 transformation, Baby, Super Android 17, and Black Star Dragons continue to be represented in merchandise. Dragon Ball Heroes is taking some of those designs and going further with them. Super Saiyan 4 Broly and Gohan, Baby taking over other characters, and Super Android 17 merging with Android 18. Adam Newman stated that Tamashii Nations has plans for the Dragon Ball Character Categories for the next 5 - 10 years. It's only a matter of time before they have some sort of focus on Dragon Ball GT designs. Super Saiyan 4 Goku, whether it be S.H. Figuarts, Figuarts Zero, Figuarts Zero EX, will open the door for those designs. Also, the Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta prototype showed that Tamashii Nations is willing to produce other designs if the market is there. I was surprised that quite a few people were hoping the new "Super Saiyan Vegeta" was Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta. Agreed. GT is by no stretch a failure. In fact if you research the DVD sales figures, it actually out sold DBZ domestically on initial release. It has a huge place in the fandom and I wasn't debating that. The simple point I was making is popularity wise, I would expect the Figuarts Vegetto to sell better than SSJ 4 Goku would, and considering the former didn't appear to perform quite as well as previous releases, i'm hedging my bets that this (along with Super) dissuaded Tamashii from releasing it in favour of more Z/Super Goku's, Vegeta's, Trunks', etc. I do worry about the future of a lot of the protoypes we've seen though. I would love to have at least 1 Super Buu in my collection, and a SSJ Gotenks with Super Ghost Kamikaze effect! Thank god for the SHODO figures. Maybe by 2018!
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Post by angelo2113 on Jun 21, 2016 12:31:01 GMT -6
Dragon Ball GT isn't considered a failure. Whether the consensus is that it was loved or hated, the designs created a lasting impact. The Super Saiyan 4 transformation, Baby, Super Android 17, and Black Star Dragons continue to be represented in merchandise. Dragon Ball Heroes is taking some of those designs and going further with them. Super Saiyan 4 Broly and Gohan, Baby taking over other characters, and Super Android 17 merging with Android 18. Adam Newman stated that Tamashii Nations has plans for the Dragon Ball Character Categories for the next 5 - 10 years. It's only a matter of time before they have some sort of focus on Dragon Ball GT designs. Super Saiyan 4 Goku, whether it be S.H. Figuarts, Figuarts Zero, Figuarts Zero EX, will open the door for those designs. Also, the Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta prototype showed that Tamashii Nations is willing to produce other designs if the market is there. I was surprised that quite a few people were hoping the new "Super Saiyan Vegeta" was Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta. Agreed. GT is by no stretch a failure. In fact if you research the DVD sales figures, it actually out sold DBZ domestically on initial release. It has a huge place in the fandom and I wasn't debating that. The simple point I was making is popularity wise, I would expect the Figuarts Vegetto to sell better than SSJ 4 Goku would, and considering the former didn't appear to perform quite as well as previous releases, i'm hedging my bets that this (along with Super) dissuaded Tamashii from releasing it in favour of more Z/Super Goku's, Vegeta's, Trunks', etc. I do worry about the future of a lot of the protoypes we've seen though. I would love to have at least 1 Super Buu in my collection, and a SSJ Gotenks with Super Ghost Kamikaze effect! Thank god for the SHODO figures. Maybe by 2018! I didn't know that about the DVD sales figures. Thanks for the information! I'm not so sure about Vegito selling better than Super Saiyan 4 Goku. While Vegito is very popular, he's not a character that can uphold a strong, stand alone, release. Vegito's sales would have been better if a Gohan absorbed Super Buu, or even a Buu Saga Vegeta, were announced. Seeing Vegito displayed against Gohan absorbed Super Buu at Tamashii Nations 2014 increased his desirability but, since that specific Buu wasn't released, he's currently in limbo awaiting future releases to make him relevant. (Very similar to Ultimate Gohan. While he's also a great release, Gohan's in a state of limbo without Super Buu or Gotenks absorbed Super Buu.) With that being said about Vegito, I don't think Super Saiyan 4 Goku needs a counterpart to sell well. Even though it's not officially canon, Super Saiyan 4 is an iconic transformation. Especially for Goku. It was THE transformation for the entirety of Dragon Ball GT. Don't worry about the future of the prototypes that we've seen because it's only a matter of when they'll be released. If you have the patience, you'll be rewarded.
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Post by dksw1ft on Jun 22, 2016 16:54:27 GMT -6
Hey just wondering how do you know which S.H.Figuarts figures are web exclusive?
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Post by angelo2113 on Jun 22, 2016 17:23:59 GMT -6
Hey just wondering how do you know which S.H.Figuarts figures are web exclusive? They label each figure's packaging with the "Bandai Collector's Shop" logo. Edited: The only releases that are not Web Exclusives are... 1.) Manga Piccolo 2.) Manga Super Saiyan Goku 3.) Manga Super Saiyan (2) Gohan 4.) Super Warrior Awakening Goku 5.) Beerus 6.) Super Saiyan Trunks 7.) Super (Saiyan) Vegeta
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Post by dksw1ft on Jun 22, 2016 18:57:49 GMT -6
Hey just wondering how do you know which S.H.Figuarts figures are web exclusive? They label each figure's packaging with the "Bandai Collector's Shop" logo. Edited: The only releases that are not Web Exclusives are... 1.) Manga Piccolo 2.) Manga Super Saiyan Goku 3.) Manga Super Saiyan (2) Gohan 4.) Super Warrior Awakening Goku 5.) Beerus 6.) Super Saiyan Trunks 7.) Super (Saiyan) Vegeta Thanks for the info, didn't know how people could tell if web exclusive or not.
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Post by eddieranger on Jun 23, 2016 0:47:24 GMT -6
Ehhh, I thought PC Trunks & Vegeta were exclusives. Shouldn't have bought spares.
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Post by solidsnakeboss on Jun 23, 2016 1:20:14 GMT -6
Ehhh, I thought PC Trunks & Vegeta were exclusives. Shouldn't have bought spares. They are. It's the new trunks and vegeta that are normal releases.
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