Post by ikkiphoenix on Dec 3, 2018 19:06:31 GMT -6
I wanted to pick up the DBZ blu-rays for my GF this X-mas, but I'm not sure which version to buy. From hat I've read on Amazon reviews. The original DBZ has all of the 299 episodes (including the non-cannon Garlic Jr. saga, etc) which I don't mind watching again TBH. And the original DBZ series also has the original music score, whereas Kai has the music score replaced. I would like the original music score. That said, from what I've read Kai is the ultimate re-mastered version and has the best picture-quality. All in all, I think I'm leaning towards the original DBZ series. Any thoughts?
Post by Majin Tomato on Dec 3, 2018 19:30:53 GMT -6
It depends on what you're looking for, I think. If you're interested in watching it purely for the English dub, Kai 100%. I'm not fond of every casting decision (18's original VA is better and I'm glad she came back for Super) but overall I'd say Kai is a demonstrably better dub, with more consistent voice acting (the original namek saga dub is painful even on the "remastered" orange bricks) and more care taken overall. Plus, better visual and sound quality.
But if you're a sub fan... really, the original score is better, and the japanese Kai dub is missing several of the original VAs due to old age and other factors. It's still better quality than the originals could be (since part of the reason Kai happened in the first place was because they didn't have the original audio masters) and does clean up a lot of filler.
Post by ikkiphoenix on Dec 3, 2018 21:42:04 GMT -6
Thanks, guys. I forgot to mention that we tend to watch everything subbed with a couple of exceptions (Ghost in the Shell and Cowboy bebop.) So I think I'll pull the trigger on the original series. It's also considerably cheaper at Walmart compared to Kai. About $23 per season compare to $30-33 p/season for the Kai version.
Also I noticed that we're starting to see anime re-masters in 4K. They just released the first two Ghost In The Shell movies in 4K. What are the chances that DBZ will get the 4K treatment?
Hmm, specific to blu-ray I don't know what to suggest. I had the first blu-ray of DBZ when it came out a few years ago and I hated it. I don't know if I just got a defective one or what, but there's a thread I went back and found here that you should read.
This one is also a good older thread that might help you.
For my money, I prefer the orange bricks that have DVDs in them. They are good and I can watch the show in Japanese or English and be happy. I do really like DBZ Kai the Final Chapters, which I call Buu Saga Kai. It was excellent and I actually prefer it over regular DBZ. The music was good, the voices were great, etc. I really enjoyed watching them. However, I absolutely hate DBZ Kai. The Final Chapters were the only good ones. DBZ Kai has characters narrating the show with their dialogue and it's so dumb. You can practically watch the show with your eyes closed and Krillin or some other character will tell you exactly what is happening on the screen, as if you are too blind to see exactly what is happening yourself. I hate Kai. Love Kai the Final Chapters though.
To me, the ultimate collection would be...
Dragonball: blue bricks... they are awesome... they are remastered yet remain in the original 4:3 format plus you can watch in Japanese if you want DBZ: Dragon Box if you can afford the insane cost to get 4:3 ratio, or just settle for orange bricks in 16:9 for extremely cheap prices. It is also the only way to get the Falcouner music, because all of the more recent releases only offer Japanese music. DBZ Pioneer/Ocean Dub: My favorite thing in my collection is the Rock the Dragon box set. It is extremely expensive now-a-days, but OMG, the music is so good, and it's a treat to watch DBZ Kai: only buy the Final Chapters. The rest is garbage not worth watching DBGT: not really worth watching, but the lime bricks are good and you can even get a lime brick that has the entire season instead of needing 2 individual lime bricks. They have 4:3 ratio video and you get the avoid the terrible rap intro that the previous funimation releases of DBGT had. It includes the DBGT special/movie A Hero’s Legacy so you don't have to buy that separately. DB Super: I don't have the slightest idea. I don't think you can get all the episodes in English yet and I don't think they have box sets yet. Movies: there's a DB movie 4 pack that is white, it's the best to get for the DB movies. There's also a 3 pack, but avoid that, or you'll have to buy the 4th movie alone. You can't get the DB movies on blu-ray I don't think. For the DBZ movies, I opted for the blu-rays that came out 5+ years ago, but the steel books (which have artwork identical to the blu-rays) are also popular DVD versions. The white box sets are also great, but they are DVDs. You'll have to just get Battle of Gods and Resurrection of F on regular blu-ray. There's a boring as hell extended version of the already boring as hell Battle of Gods movie, so it's the one to get, I suppose. Don't buy the one that just has the theatrical release... the extended one has both versions on it. If you want the Pioneer/Ocean dub versions of DBZ movies 1, 2, and 3, you'll get them with the Rock the Dragon box set or you can get them pretty cheap as individual DVDs. I prefer them over the funimation dubs of those movies.
Things to avoid in my opinion: -the old Pioneer/Ocean individual DVDs from the 90s simply because the artwork isn't consistent as a set, but the episodes are fine as far as I know. Only get these if you want this dub and can't afford the Rock the Dragon box set. You'll need a huge shelf to hold all of them though. The last DVD is midway through Namek Saga, just like the Rock the Dragon box set. Funimation took over from that point with voices. -the old Funimation DVDs of the movies... man... I had a copy of the Meta Cooler movie that looked horribly grainy... avoid those at all costs. -DBZ Kai